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talking about making our environment

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less toxic nearly every autoimmune

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the spread of the Oso deadly coronavirus

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notion of infectious disease viruses and

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bacteria being the root cause of our

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problems was fundamentally flawed and at

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best is based on more guesses and

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faith-based doctrine than the Big Bang

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and at worst is a vast conspiracy to

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find an invisible scapegoat as well as

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drain our bodies and our bank accounts

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well sometimes it's best to go back to

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the basics and according to today's

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guests dawn luster and David Parker germ

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theory itself the scientific basis that

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our entire medical system is based upon

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has never been proven it's the subject

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of their massive nearly 800 page book

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what really makes you ill why everything

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you thought you knew about disease is

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wrong and I'm psyched to get into it the

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infectious disease doubters and medical

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system Slayers dawn and David welcome to

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for inviting his own and we've been

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greatly looking forward to talking to

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you about this oh absolutely it is a

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real pleasure your book is massive and

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full of interesting facts and history

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that really do make me start to wonder

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about these things that we've taken for

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granted as to why we get sick and you

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really do go back to the beginnings of

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medical history it is quite a trip and

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in previous episodes we've talked about

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how toxic our environment is plenty of

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times as well as the suppression and

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demonization of many cures that have

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popped up more from the natural world

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than from Big Pharma but to say germs

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and viruses have never been proven to

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cause disease is a much bolder claim

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what was it that got you looking at the

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fundamentals so thoroughly how long have

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you been doing this research well as you

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say it's a big book 800 pages and we've

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been researching this for well at least

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10 years over ten years so a lot of

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research has gone into this and as you

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all know from having a look at the book

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there's 40 pages of references alone

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where we've looked at white papers and

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stuff but out by the w-h-o World Health

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Authority for those that are not sure

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what the abbreviations are so yeah it's

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the whole medical establishment we have

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to be careful what we say because some

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of the big money behind it in the

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pharmaceutical companies and others who

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have got huge vested interests and they

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don't take kindly to anyone criticizing

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what they do but to answer your question

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more specifically as to how we sort of

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got into this it was really from

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personal experiences with close family

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and friends over a period of time who

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were diagnosed with cancer various

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cancers and various age groups the

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people and they all I'm talking at this

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stage of six different people who all

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took the normal medical treatments

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whether it's chemotherapy at

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radiotherapy or combinations of the two

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they all abate what the doctors said

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they all followed it faithfully and they

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all died so I started to wonder what was

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going off there particularly as I had

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another relative an elderly lady who was

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also diagnosed with cancer but she was

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very adamant that she was not going to

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be messed around as she put it and she

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didn't want any other chemo or

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radiotherapy she just wanted to be left

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alone and she just lived with it and the

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medical establishment still monitored

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they were able to tell her that her

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cancer had completely gone so that was

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really great news so I was left

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wondering well what's going off here

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I've got six people who followed the

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medical advice taking the treatment and

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they've all died and one lady refused

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all of it and she left so that was what

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really started me thinking and you know

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dawn and I we've known one another for

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many years and we talked about this and

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thought there's something very peculiar

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going on something wrong particularly

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when we'd heard the medical

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establishment as they still do crowing

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that they Kansas Research is getting

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better and better and you know they have

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growing and at least a 50% success rate

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with curing cancer well

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well you know just for the six people

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that I know you've had a hundred percent

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failure rate so where does this 50%

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success rate come from so it was that

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sort of thing that god is interesting to

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start to have a look and see just what

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was behind all this and we found that

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the more we dug into it the mercury got

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and the more we found that the things we

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were being told and had been brought up

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to believe by the medical establishment

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were untrue instead of it being a

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science it became obvious - as it was

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more a belief system that people and I'm

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talking about doctors now were just

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following a Dogma and we're not here

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saying that doctors are evil people and

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they're out to deceive the public you

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know far from it I mean the general

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medical staff whether they're nurses or

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doctors believe they're doing the right

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thing and they want the best for their

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patients but like anyone they can only

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do what they're taught and if medical

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school as we know because we talk to

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doctors you know they teach them certain

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things and as we know most of the

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medical schools are funded by or wholly

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owned by pharmaceutical companies or

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affiliates - pharmaceutical companies so

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there's quite a bias there in the type

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of things that they're going to be

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taught and basically they taught the

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medicines are the answer to everything

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they're whatever the symptoms they've

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got a name for it and then they'll

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prescribe a particular drug or treatment

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so as we realize that this was quite a

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murky thing that we were looking at we

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thought where do we start with it so we

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decided that we'd start at the beginning

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we'd take nothing for granted we'd both

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follow the true scientific method which

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is follow the evidence and we'll start

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with the most basic question of all is

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what really makes you ill we knew that

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we were told by the establishment and

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still are the tips almost everything is

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due to germs of one sort or another

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either viruses or bacteria

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so we started to look for the proofs of

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whether this was true and in a nutshell

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we found that it wasn't true that the

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whole thing is based on assumptions as

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much as anything and that there's no

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true scientific and untucking true

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scientific evidence to support the germ

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theory and I guess in a way the clue is

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in the title germ theory ie it's a

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theory it's not a proven fact and that's

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really where we started okay I don't

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want this to be a monologue so you know

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you're welcome to jump in and have some

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questions as we go along

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sure sure yes that tease us up quite

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well and I agree with you the cancer

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situation is quite dire I think that's a

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huge conspiracy chemotherapy and

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radiation can't hold a candle to a

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proper diet and just an increase in

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nutrition and focusing on things that

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way I mean there's plenty of examples

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the Gerson Institute where basically

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they're healing cancer with green

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smoothies and that's essentially what

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your book is about largely is getting

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away from the toxic environment and

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focusing on nutrition and with cancer I

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think that's at least for this audience

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fairly well established that there's

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something crazy going on there but

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viruses and germ theory I mean this is

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way more fundamental in the book you say

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there are a number of sources that

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provide a corroboration of the assertion

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that germ theory lacks any original

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scientific proof and this is probably

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the element of your positions that

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sounds most radical to the listeners

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what sources do you find most convincing

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that people should know about

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well the first thing you need to

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remember is that it's important that

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those who propose a theory are the ones

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who actually need to prove it and it's

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not just for us to say oh it's not

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improved we look at the evidence and we

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see that their theories haven't been

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proved a lot of the sources that we've

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used I mean we have quoted a number of

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medical doctors who were around at about

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a similar time to Louis Pasteur who is

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the what he's given the credit for the

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germ theory but he wasn't the first

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person who posited the idea that there

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were these small agents that invaded the

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body infected people and are the cause

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of disease of these germs then started

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being looked for in the body and then it

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brought about the whole idea of assuming

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that these entities invaded the body and

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caused infections now saw the sources

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we've got our dr. John Tilden dr. Benner

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Bailey and dr. Emerson all of them are

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medical doctors or were they're all kind

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of around the end of the 19th century

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some of them lived into the 20th century

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but they were fairly close

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contemporaries of posture and they

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looked into what was going on and they

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were not at all convinced by the

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information that pasta was putting out

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some of his papers and there's even some

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I believe his name is Jason who's

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written a book showing that some of

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Louis Pasteur's work was in fact nowhere

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near as methodical as it's made out to

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be so no imposter has held up as this

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hero of modern medicine as a germ theory

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and a lot of his contemporaries were

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saying no but of course it didn't suit

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the people at the time when the people

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who are running the medical system at

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the time to have that theory questioned

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at all if I could just mention here

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sorry to interrupt

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just to mention that in case people

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don't realize that Louis Pasteur was not

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a dog

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he was a chemist and in later years

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after his death he'd left notes to say

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that none of his papers or research work

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were to be made public which is an

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interesting fact in itself as to why

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someone want to do that and many people

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who have sort of looked into his work of

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Trustee actually as a fraud and may talk

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a little later about some of this stuff

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particularly his association with rabies

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and a rabies vaccine so we could talk

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about that a bit later but anyway

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hand it back to doorman yes I've just

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got a few examples but the ones we've

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included in the book are just a few I

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mean it takes a lot of effort and the

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way the Internet is going in the way

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that information is being cleansed down

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and becoming more difficult to access it

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does take quite a bit of digging into

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some of the older papers and some of the

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older writings of people of the late

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19th century early 20th century but one

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of dr. Tillman's comments I think we

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bought it at the head of that particular

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chapter about the germ theory where he

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says that germs is the cause of disease

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is the dying fallacy he actually called

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it a fallacy now dr. Tilden darn in

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about 1940 so we're talking the best

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part of a hundred years ago the idea

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that germs will cause of disease was

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just not accepted but it's been pushed

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and pushed and pushed there are reasons

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for it which I'm sure will go into more

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detail later on but some of it is

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because it's a very useful something to

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use to frighten people but it also

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distracts and you know you're rightly

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saying that the environments getting

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more toxic and more people are aware of

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that but of course it's much easier to

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say oh well it's all germs it's nothing

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to do with pollution they're more germs

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and they're all affecting us and they're

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all invading our bodies and that's what

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causes disease well that just simply

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isn't true there are course many

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examples that we discuss in the book of

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how the theory just doesn't follow the

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empirical evidence you know the

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experiences of real people in the real

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world don't match this theory and so it

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really starts to form

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and it's quite obvious that it's useful

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but it isn't actually true if I could

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just come in a little on that because

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going back to those early years when

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they sort of with optical microscopes

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this is in the time before the electron

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microscope was invented which didn't

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come in to around the 1930s but in those

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early years when they just had the

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optical microscopes and they first

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discovered bacteria which are living

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organisms because they saw them if they

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found either diseased or dying flesh

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then they assumed because they saw

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bacteria around those damaged areas

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damaged tissues then they assumed that

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it was bacteria that had caused it and

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as we've seen and I think it's quite a

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nice sort of anecdote is to say that

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it'd be the same as accusing firemen of

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starting fires just because whenever you

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see house fire they're always firemen

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around it and this was the most

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fundamental mistake that they made with

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bacteria they assume because they saw

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them around dead and diseased tissue

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that they were the cause as proper

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research is shown they are actually

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cleanup agents and should be thought of

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as that so all the normal if we think of

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bacteria and fungi the various sorts

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they're always breaking dead tissue down

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without them I mean you see that in in

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woodlands you see it in many aspects of

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life that bacteria and fungi which

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instead of being blamed for causing

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disease are actually essential to the

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body in fact it's been estimated that in

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the human gut there's something like a

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pound and a half of bacteria over here

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and you know millions and millions of

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them and without them your digestion

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system wouldn't work and without them

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well life would not survive on earth so

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they're actually essential not a

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hindrance so completely given the wrong

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sort of stigma to them but as dawn said

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earlier as time went on it became

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convenient to blame them

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bacteria because then sort of lotions

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and potions could be prepared to kill

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off this bacteria no doubt we'll talk

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about antibiotics a little later too

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many of the diseases that they were then

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attributed to being caused by bacteria

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but very minors we'll talk more of none

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of it was ever proved it was just

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assumptions but they realized that there

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were certain illnesses diseases that

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they couldn't pin on bacteria so they

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thought there must be something else but

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they didn't know what it was and then in

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the 1930s when the electron microscope

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was discovered which gave them the

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ability to see smaller things they were

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able to say tiny particles in the blood

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which they gave the name viruses to even

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though as we say in the book the virus

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the word virus is a very old word I

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think from the Latin which just means

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poison but it's been a corrupted term

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now to talk as if these tiny particles

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are actually living things like bacteria

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but in actual fact science shows us

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something true science shows us that

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they're not living things they are

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basically tiny bits of protein which are

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not alive at all they don't meet any of

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the criteria this is not our idea this

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is held by science they don't meet any

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of the criteria for something to be

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alive which means it should be able to

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eat and excrete and have a certain

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minimum DNA and to reproduce these are

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the things that define whether something

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is alive and these particles do they

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call viruses don't have any of those

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attributes basically they're nonliving

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thing right sorry I just wanted to jump

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in and say that I did have this written

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down because it is such a curious thing

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I think a lot of people have this

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attitude of trusting the experts they've

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got this on lock they've been studying

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these things for a long time from your

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book you have this thing where you say

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in August of 2008 Scientific American

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ran an article entitled our viruses

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alive and to quote that article they say

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first they were seen as poisons then as

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life forms then as biological chemicals

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viruses today are thought of to be in a

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gray area between living and nonliving

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and it's like what that basically says

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nothing ain't so kind of backs up what

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you're saying is like they don't really

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even know what a virus is exactly well

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it seems their purpose for them to say

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that viruses are alive but they have

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never been living organisms and we quote

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biologist lynn margulis saying that you

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know in spoilage it's not a neurologist

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saying that they are nonliving and that

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bacteria are the origin of all life

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because bacteria are so predominant or

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everywhere and they're ubiquitous so

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they are one of the fundamental

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particles of life and as such it raises

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huge questions about how they can

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actually cause illness but at the same

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time

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viruses are convenient for those

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diseases that they want to say are

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aren't caused by bacteria so they bring

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in the whole virus thing which of course

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probably takes us on to what's going on

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at the moment with the whole corona

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virus and if there's an awful lot of

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misinformation meaningful doubt about

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that yeah I think probably just because

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this virus think is a really big issue

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as Don said you know and he's very

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convenient to blame a virus for almost

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anything and the medical establishment I

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will say inventing new viruses all the

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time you know but there was an

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interesting case this is only a few

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years ago and this was in Germany a dr.

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Stephan Lancome and people might want to

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look him up it's only a few years ago he

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is a doctor he's also a virologist

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although he now states that he doesn't

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want to be called the virologist he's

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obviously still a doctor he doesn't want

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to be called a biologist because he sir

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as he puts it it's a bankrupt science is

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just not a science at all and he's quite

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disgusted with it all

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in fact he's on the record as saying

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neither he nor his team have ever found

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any virus to be the cause of any disease

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and that's a bold statement coming from

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a doctor and a virologist of that in

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fact one of the most famous things

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we have seen about dr. Stefan Lanka is

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and this again is only a few years ago

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to prove his point he put out a

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challenge to ask anyone to prove that a

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virus was the cause of measles okay and

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he offered money for this you know if

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anyone could do it

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well obviously the pharmaceutical

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companies wanted to push a man forward

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to take that up and they took it into

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court got a long story sure they were

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unable to prove in court that any of the

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scientific papers they could bring

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forward

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none of them prove that a virus caused

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measles and dr. Stefan Leko on his case

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now you may find that that surprising

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that you'd have thought that would have

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been headline news all around the world

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you know there isn't a virus that causes

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measles

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therefore it begs the question well what

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a vaccinations for what is the measles

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vaccination for that they're pushing all

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the time and frightening mothers to get

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their young children vaccinated against

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measles because it's a terrible thinking

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could even cause there and yet a call

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case in Germany in recent years only two

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or three years ago was able to show that

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there is no virus that causes measles at

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all so that just shows you the you know

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I'll call it corruption the corruption

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is going on in the medical establishment

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and the authorities generally and also

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the complicity of the world media in

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propagating this deception rather than

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doing their job properly which is to

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expose these sorts of things to the

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public to to show just what a nonsense

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it is and that's just that one virus but

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as I say dr. Stefan like I said he's

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never found he or his team so it's not

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just him involved have never found any

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virus to cause any disease so we have to

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ask ourselves what is it that's going

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off particularly with this huge scare

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mongering that's going worldwide with

549
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,409
the corona virus which we'll come back

550
00:23:46,810 --> 00:23:44,960
to now well I was actually going to go

551
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:46,820
back to the point with the measles

552
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:49,110
because soon after the court case

553
00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:50,850
it was actually very interesting and

554
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:52,260
possibly well he wasn't particularly

555
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:54,570
surprising for us but there was a great

556
00:24:02,210 --> 00:23:57,510
deal of media attention on measles cases

557
00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:02,220
and really hyping up the apparent danger

558
00:24:07,340 --> 00:24:03,809
of measles

559
00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:07,350
now measles always considered to be you

560
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:08,820
know up until very recently or was

561
00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:10,650
considered to be something about mild

562
00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:13,260
disease and the children generally kind

563
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:15,929
of got over it and the only problems

564
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:18,410
were called complications and

565
00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:20,250
complications weren't actually

566
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:22,350
necessarily as a result of the measles

567
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:25,110
sucked the complications were to do with

568
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:28,290
other factors but of course Aveda don't

569
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:30,210
necessarily report all of that but they

570
00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:31,650
were certainly happy to report

571
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:34,590
lots of measles cases and all these

572
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,570
different children and the reason that

573
00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:38,220
there were more measles cases is because

574
00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:39,750
parents weren't taking their children to

575
00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:43,230
be vaccinated so you know these points

576
00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:44,790
are all connected together but it was

577
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:48,870
quite a an increase in media reporting

578
00:24:55,490 --> 00:24:51,690
about measles of measles cases soon

579
00:24:57,919 --> 00:24:55,500
after that case was decided in dr.

580
00:24:59,360 --> 00:24:57,929
Nova's favor so yeah it's funny how

581
00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:59,370
these things work but it's not too

582
00:25:04,430 --> 00:25:01,559
surprising that it just erupted in that

583
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:04,440
way well let me ask you this real quick

584
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:06,090
because and we can talk about it in the

585
00:25:12,409 --> 00:25:09,809
context of coronavirus if we want but

586
00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:12,419
just the idea of being contagious

587
00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:15,150
whether it's measles or chicken pox or

588
00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:17,580
the common cold it feels like we've all

589
00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:20,280
experienced getting sick after our

590
00:25:24,919 --> 00:25:22,230
friends and family have gotten sick and

591
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:24,929
just from being around them is that not

592
00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:26,250
right because that's kind of the thing

593
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:28,830
that makes me think well clearly they

594
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:31,110
have something in them or on them and

595
00:25:34,610 --> 00:25:32,730
then it got to me what about

596
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:34,620
contagiousness is is this not a

597
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:38,460
phenomenon it's interesting question and

598
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,200
one that obviously we looked at very

599
00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:43,440
carefully but bearing in mind what we've

600
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:45,179
just been saying that there is no proof

601
00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:49,049
that either bacteria or a virus can

602
00:25:54,409 --> 00:25:51,929
cause it any disease okay and we can

603
00:25:56,090 --> 00:25:54,419
give more evidence for that you start to

604
00:25:58,250 --> 00:25:56,100
question what exactly what you've said

605
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,260
well you know how does it if someone in

606
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,240
an office environment you know someone's

607
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:01,760
got a cold

608
00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:04,130
and then people start going down with

609
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:07,190
this cold conditions and we say they

610
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:08,870
will blame one another for coughing

611
00:26:13,150 --> 00:26:10,610
germs over one another so it's a common

612
00:26:16,150 --> 00:26:13,160
experience but there are many factors to

613
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:16,160
be involved in that sort of phenomena

614
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:19,410
again which we explained in the book

615
00:26:24,380 --> 00:26:22,110
because we are quite category could say

616
00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:24,390
well we're not denying that people get

617
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:26,580
ill we're not denying that groups of

618
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:28,740
people can get ill but because we know

619
00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:31,140
that it's not a bacteria it's not a

620
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:33,000
virus then there is some other cause of

621
00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:35,820
course there is so these are the things

622
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:37,830
that we've started to look at and it

623
00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:40,530
brings in things like environment the

624
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:43,500
environment that people working in which

625
00:26:50,350 --> 00:26:46,890
can be the polluted air it can be food

626
00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:50,360
and drink it can be as we know

627
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,190
electromagnetic radiation which is an

628
00:26:58,580 --> 00:26:55,440
increasing thing particularly with the

629
00:27:00,800 --> 00:26:58,590
advent of 5g which many people are

630
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:00,810
extremely worried about so all of these

631
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:03,750
things within a group can affect that

632
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:07,320
group and of course depending on the

633
00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:09,570
health of their bodies depends what they

634
00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:10,680
eat and drink so there can be many

635
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:14,070
factors we discuss as we found over the

636
00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:16,110
10 years that we've been studying this

637
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:18,560
that we've broken it down to four

638
00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:20,850
factors which we discuss in the book

639
00:27:26,030 --> 00:27:23,070
which are the root cause and all illness

640
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:26,040
and the mechanism that they work through

641
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:27,930
we can talk about this later which is

642
00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:30,330
the production of free radicals in the

643
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:32,790
body which is a normal process we'll

644
00:27:37,910 --> 00:27:34,350
talk a little bit about it now since I

645
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:37,920
mentioned it all of these things that

646
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:40,530
make people ill is when you get an over

647
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:42,120
production of free radicals in the body

648
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:45,450
which are not mopped up through the use

649
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,330
of antioxidants okay now it's a natural

650
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:51,120
process for the body to produce free

651
00:27:58,170 --> 00:27:55,150
radicals during normal living activity

652
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:58,180
but if a person leaves eating correctly

653
00:28:01,730 --> 00:27:59,650
and has got the right intake of

654
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:01,740
nutrients which contain antioxidants

655
00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:04,360
then the body just mops those up and

656
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:06,670
they're excreted in the normal way

657
00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:10,390
also during sleep the body's natural

658
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:12,820
healing process again whilst you're

659
00:28:18,270 --> 00:28:15,070
asleep goes through a process of mopping

660
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:18,280
up these free radicals but if there are

661
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:20,170
things that disturb that and this can

662
00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:22,809
happen with nightshift workers who sleep

663
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:25,300
in the wrong part of the day as far as

664
00:28:30,450 --> 00:28:27,730
the body's concern or people that are

665
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:30,460
not having a proper nutritious diet they

666
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:32,260
don't contain enough antioxidants and

667
00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:34,330
they die and they get this buildup of

668
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:38,860
free radicals which damage tissue and

669
00:28:43,230 --> 00:28:41,050
this is a fact and if you got enough of

670
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,240
them for long enough you can get very

671
00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:46,000
severe damage so it can go from just a

672
00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:48,790
light illness or a fever

673
00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:51,640
- literally cancer which is what cancer

674
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:56,260
is it's long-term damage to tissue but

675
00:29:01,260 --> 00:28:59,410
the body can heal from that that can be

676
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:01,270
corrected if it's caught soon enough

677
00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:04,330
hence the little story that I mentioned

678
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:06,940
earlier with the relative who did refuse

679
00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:09,130
everything and basically if you like

680
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:11,020
yourself of cancer without doing

681
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:12,790
anything special other than living

682
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:16,150
normally the other thing with the whole

683
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:18,250
idea of contagiousness is the fact that

684
00:29:22,919 --> 00:29:20,770
people are interpreting their different

685
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:22,929
symptoms to being indications of

686
00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:26,770
different diseases so if you've got XYZ

687
00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:28,780
symptoms and it's this disease if it's

688
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:30,160
something slightly different it's

689
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:32,770
another disease interesting many of them

690
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:34,990
have actually got very similar or rather

691
00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:37,510
many symptoms in common I mean fever

692
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:40,390
cough runny nose maybe sort of digestive

693
00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:42,280
problems you know they're common to so

694
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:45,100
many and so we want to all happen you've

695
00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:47,530
got all these different diseases why are

696
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:49,750
there so many different diseases but not

697
00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:51,490
only that they seem to be increasing in

698
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,820
number and it's not easy to find out how

699
00:29:58,169 --> 00:29:56,320
many different diseases that are

700
00:30:00,810 --> 00:29:58,179
supposed to be but it's hundreds if not

701
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:00,820
thousands I just don't know but they're

702
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:02,170
making up different names and

703
00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:03,520
subdividing them into different

704
00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:06,070
categories all the time but that's

705
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:07,660
really another

706
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:10,480
major problem but we found it another

707
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:13,210
you know big revelation that there are

708
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:15,640
different disease entities there are

709
00:30:21,180 --> 00:30:18,070
different collections of symptoms and

710
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:21,190
people have similar symptoms so if

711
00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:23,500
there's something that's going around

712
00:30:29,130 --> 00:30:26,020
the office as it were people will have

713
00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:29,140
similar symptoms or they may have many

714
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:30,940
similar symptoms but they won't

715
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:33,310
necessarily have exactly the same

716
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:35,410
symptoms and for the same length of

717
00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:39,280
period or the same intensity so they're

718
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:42,820
not easily identifiable has exactly the

719
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:46,510
same disease now the reason that people

720
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:48,400
have different symptoms as David was

721
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:51,310
saying is because of different states of

722
00:30:57,780 --> 00:30:53,890
the body now sometimes people have

723
00:30:59,490 --> 00:30:57,790
similar symptoms at the same time so for

724
00:31:01,410 --> 00:30:59,500
example you know children get together

725
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,420
during the summer holidays and then when

726
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:03,760
they go back to school they seem to have

727
00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:06,970
lots of combs or something now it's

728
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:08,800
because of similar circumstances it

729
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:10,150
could be just you know going back to

730
00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:11,500
school there are all sorts of

731
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:13,240
possibilities of what caused those

732
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:15,400
symptoms but it's nothing to do with

733
00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:18,010
diseases it's to do with what the

734
00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:20,560
symptoms actually represent which are

735
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:24,190
the body's normal processes of dealing

736
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:27,970
with the toxins and just releasing them

737
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:31,510
so sneezing is expulsion of different

738
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:33,070
irritants that have gone into the

739
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:35,620
spiritual system obviously you know

740
00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:37,810
diarrhea vomiting are problems in the

741
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:40,300
digestive system so these are natural

742
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:42,370
processes and the body's far more

743
00:31:47,690 --> 00:31:44,980
capable of dealing with them because

744
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:47,700
it's got its own natural mechanisms for

745
00:31:53,070 --> 00:31:50,490
healing itself and this is again another

746
00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:53,080
quite important point that the body's

747
00:31:57,780 --> 00:31:55,420
not given anywhere near was not credit

748
00:32:00,810 --> 00:31:57,790
for the ability to actually look after

749
00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:00,820
itself heal itself and become and remain

750
00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:03,580
healthy but it needs to be given the

751
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:05,920
right circumstances yeah again I

752
00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:08,200
research has shown that only the body

753
00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:09,080
can heal

754
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:11,990
self providing as donors just said

755
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,170
provided you have a healthy diet as much

756
00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:17,120
as you can and a healthy lifestyle as

757
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:18,500
much as you can and this doesn't mean

758
00:32:21,670 --> 00:32:20,090
that you have to be down the gym every

759
00:32:24,220 --> 00:32:21,680
few days you don't have to go to the gym

760
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:24,230
at all but you do need to be able to eat

761
00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:26,030
correctly you do need to get the correct

762
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:28,670
level of nutrients and vitamins through

763
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:31,430
natural food good food in fact as a

764
00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:34,970
doctor dr. Henry Baylor did write a book

765
00:32:40,330 --> 00:32:37,640
called let food be your medicine

766
00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:40,340
I think they was and I think he's quite

767
00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:42,260
well known in sort of a list people in

768
00:32:46,990 --> 00:32:45,470
Hollywood I think Jane Fonda was a great

769
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:47,000
believer in I think they called it

770
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:49,730
Bella's broth which was a particular

771
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:52,550
nutritious soup that she swore by but I

772
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:55,730
digress slimy but basically we found

773
00:33:01,210 --> 00:32:57,110
it's only the body that can heal itself

774
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,220
now certain medicines shall we say

775
00:33:04,210 --> 00:33:02,720
whether it's herbs or whether it's

776
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:04,220
something that pharmaceutical companies

777
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,950
provide may mask the symptoms but they

778
00:33:11,410 --> 00:33:08,720
don't kill anything and that's for sure

779
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,420
they don't kill anything and there are

780
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:13,760
so many I know they call them side

781
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:17,210
effects from pharmaceutical products but

782
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:18,710
we just call them effects you know

783
00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:20,390
that's what they are they're effects of

784
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:22,160
some of these medications which are

785
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:23,690
actually far worse than anything you had

786
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:26,150
to start with and very often lead to a

787
00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:27,950
chain reaction of you end up taking

788
00:33:32,530 --> 00:33:30,590
another medicine to actually a mediate

789
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,540
the first medicine that you took and

790
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:34,640
I've come across people which you've got

791
00:33:38,830 --> 00:33:36,770
shelves full of medications which they

792
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:38,840
take in on a daily basis which is really

793
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:42,110
scary this is all great money for the

794
00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:44,390
pharmaceutical companies of course of

795
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:47,150
course and I'm totally with you with the

796
00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:49,250
idea that just the body can heal itself

797
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:51,230
that the drugs were given from the

798
00:33:55,270 --> 00:33:52,910
medical system aren't doing a whole lot

799
00:33:59,310 --> 00:33:55,280
as you say in the book a lot of the

800
00:34:02,350 --> 00:33:59,320
symptoms of a toxin exposure are nausea

801
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:02,360
headache vomiting these are the exact

802
00:34:08,530 --> 00:34:05,690
same side effects of medications so it's

803
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:08,540
like well are these just toxins and I

804
00:34:14,170 --> 00:34:11,570
guess I'm still on the contagion thing I

805
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:14,180
hear a lot of your points but let's look

806
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,010
at something like maybe chicken pox

807
00:34:20,830 --> 00:34:18,800
because there is a visual component to

808
00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:20,840
chicken pox you know it's hard to

809
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:22,820
quantify someone's coffee

810
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:25,430
or someone getting the chills but when

811
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:27,770
you see little red dots on a person

812
00:34:32,110 --> 00:34:29,930
that's pretty easy to quantify and then

813
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:32,120
you take those kids because they're

814
00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:34,490
apparently contagious and you have them

815
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,590
interact with each other so they get the

816
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:38,960
virus I mean this is just the

817
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:41,750
conventional 101 chickenpox stuff but

818
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:44,090
because we can see that one and it jumps

819
00:34:48,430 --> 00:34:46,550
from person to person or so it seems

820
00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:48,440
what's really going on there if we have

821
00:34:53,890 --> 00:34:51,140
kid a with red dots on them they say yes

822
00:34:56,650 --> 00:34:53,900
chickenpox he interacts with kids B and

823
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,660
next week kid B has those dots and and

824
00:35:00,970 --> 00:34:58,640
has some similar symptoms what's that

825
00:35:07,810 --> 00:35:03,340
good point and first of all let me

826
00:35:11,230 --> 00:35:07,820
explain when someone has had a a certain

827
00:35:13,330 --> 00:35:11,240
level of toxic intake shall we say the

828
00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:13,340
body is trying to get rid of that as it

829
00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:16,520
recognizes it as a poison and as Donna

830
00:35:21,849 --> 00:35:18,230
said earlier that can come out being

831
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:21,859
sick or diarrhea Qatar because the body

832
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,450
is employing the mucous membranes

833
00:35:27,849 --> 00:35:25,760
various ways that it has for getting rid

834
00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:27,859
of those toxins but one of the main

835
00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:29,660
reasons and one of the main processes

836
00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:31,340
that it uses is the skin

837
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:34,270
it's the largest organ in the body and

838
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:37,310
the body will use the skin to expel

839
00:35:42,910 --> 00:35:40,910
various toxins through the skin and this

840
00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:42,920
is of course where you get either rashes

841
00:35:50,770 --> 00:35:46,700
or blisters appearing on the body okay

842
00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:50,780
now though a group of children to seem

843
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:52,340
to suffer these things all at the same

844
00:35:58,810 --> 00:35:56,240
time you would have to look at again as

845
00:36:01,870 --> 00:35:58,820
we sort of alluded to earlier what is in

846
00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:01,880
their environment what is in their the

847
00:36:06,370 --> 00:36:03,560
local things that are happening to them

848
00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:06,380
now as we know many children go through

849
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:08,660
right from a very early age a process of

850
00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:12,250
vaccinations okay which are highly toxic

851
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:14,390
again we may talk about them a little

852
00:36:19,090 --> 00:36:16,910
later so you can end up with a group of

853
00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:19,100
children we've all gone through a

854
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:21,560
similar vaccination process because they

855
00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:23,630
all seem to get them the back to certain

856
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:27,020
rate of vaccines at the same age well of

857
00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:28,640
course the body is seeing those as

858
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:30,500
toxins they have some quite red ball

859
00:36:33,609 --> 00:36:32,330
things in them and it's going to get rid

860
00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:33,619
of them so you can have a group of

861
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:35,840
children or coming up with their bodies

862
00:36:40,210 --> 00:36:38,720
trying to expel this rubbish from them

863
00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:40,220
and it's coming out through the skin and

864
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:42,740
it's coming in you get the blisters the

865
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,190
doctors call it chickenpox but these

866
00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:48,560
sorts of blisters appear for all sorts

867
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:50,540
of different reasons and the doctors

868
00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:51,950
often put all sorts of different

869
00:36:58,060 --> 00:36:55,100
diagnoses on them but it's basically all

870
00:37:00,880 --> 00:36:58,070
stems from the same problem of the body

871
00:37:03,849 --> 00:37:00,890
is just trying to get rid of the tops in

872
00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:03,859
as quickly as you can and it will employ

873
00:37:09,010 --> 00:37:06,920
all its systems so the children can feel

874
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:09,020
really bad they can have headaches that

875
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:11,250
can have vomiting that can up diarrhea

876
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:13,130
can also have

877
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:14,930
the blisters coming up on the skin

878
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:17,030
because the body is employing all of its

879
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:19,490
systems to get rid of the toxin as quick

880
00:37:22,810 --> 00:37:21,650
as he can and the reason you get a group

881
00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:22,820
of them is because they've all

882
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:27,470
experienced the same intake shall we say

883
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:29,690
of whatever the toxin is and I'm just

884
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:31,310
suggesting because we've seen it happen

885
00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:33,650
but one of these reasons that you get a

886
00:37:37,810 --> 00:37:35,990
group of children will experience in

887
00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:37,820
this same thing at the same time it's

888
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:39,260
because they've just gone through a

889
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:42,410
probably a very similar intake of

890
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:45,800
vaccinations I would also say that even

891
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:49,250
though it happens in many cases there

892
00:37:54,490 --> 00:37:52,640
are exceptions there are although

893
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,500
possibly less though I don't know I

894
00:37:59,020 --> 00:37:56,480
don't know the exact statistics that

895
00:38:02,140 --> 00:37:59,030
even and she says so that we know child

896
00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:02,150
a has spots and blisters places child be

897
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,100
told B might not always get the same

898
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:08,720
skin eruptions or whatever you can get

899
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:12,260
it doesn't always happen it's not an

900
00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:15,170
inevitable it's seen as a well you know

901
00:38:20,590 --> 00:38:18,380
my child had it so you know your child

902
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:20,600
is going to get it it's not always the

903
00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:23,090
case but that also brings in another

904
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:25,420
aspect of the idea about contagiousness

905
00:38:33,150 --> 00:38:29,450
is that it's sort of tied in with belief

906
00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:33,160
systems as well because when people

907
00:38:39,220 --> 00:38:35,870
really believe that that's what has

908
00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:39,230
happened quite often they can get it's

909
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:40,760
not quite psychosomatic but there are

910
00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:43,520
real symptoms have can develop as a

911
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:48,080
result of believing that something like

912
00:38:52,660 --> 00:38:49,730
a virus or whatever is going to cause

913
00:38:54,190 --> 00:38:52,670
the disease you know in recent years

914
00:38:55,810 --> 00:38:54,200
many people have said all you know keep

915
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,820
away from me I've got the learning I

916
00:39:00,910 --> 00:38:57,200
said don't mourn you've got nothing I

917
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,920
can't act and I absolutely know it but

918
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:02,480
it's just common for people so they're

919
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:04,250
all you know you don't get near me

920
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:07,610
because people believe germs are spread

921
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:11,380
between people it really is so ingrained

922
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:13,820
it's just not the case if I could just

923
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:16,910
come in on that a little more they'll

924
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:19,700
mention that placebo effect now this

925
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:21,830
effect is very well known in the medical

926
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:23,930
establishment and it is so powerful that

927
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:25,660
when they are doing drug trial

928
00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:28,240
they have a placebo pill you know which

929
00:39:34,859 --> 00:39:31,079
is wanted a body word just a sugar pill

930
00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:34,869
to test against whatever the drug is

931
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:37,720
that they've just manufactured okay but

932
00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:39,220
of course when they do what they call a

933
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:42,099
double-blind so they have two groups one

934
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:43,690
group they're going to give the new drug

935
00:39:48,269 --> 00:39:45,490
to and the other group will get a

936
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:48,279
placebo pill but of course they're not

937
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,690
told that that's what it is they both

938
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,000
think they're getting the same drug and

939
00:39:57,150 --> 00:39:54,160
they can get surprisingly the same

940
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,160
results from both Group A and B even

941
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,200
though once had a drug and the other's

942
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:01,839
hand of placebo pill should a pill which

943
00:40:07,499 --> 00:40:04,390
they thought was the drug so the placebo

944
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:07,509
effect is very very powerful and is used

945
00:40:11,249 --> 00:40:09,400
to great extent by the medical

946
00:40:13,319 --> 00:40:11,259
establishment today they will give it to

947
00:40:15,539 --> 00:40:13,329
people and tell them yes okay you've

948
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:15,549
come into the surgery and you believe

949
00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:16,569
you've got this down the other and

950
00:40:21,059 --> 00:40:19,480
here's this particular drug that people

951
00:40:23,099 --> 00:40:21,069
think they can to get and doctors will

952
00:40:24,779 --> 00:40:23,109
administer a placebo pill but of course

953
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:24,789
the patient doesn't know that and

954
00:40:29,099 --> 00:40:27,190
they'll go away quite happy and believe

955
00:40:30,509 --> 00:40:29,109
that you know as they often do say come

956
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:30,519
back and see me in a couple of weeks if

957
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:32,200
all is not well well of course by that

958
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:33,910
time all is well so they never see the

959
00:40:39,029 --> 00:40:36,670
patient again so we shouldn't

960
00:40:41,779 --> 00:40:39,039
underestimate the placebo effect and

961
00:40:44,059 --> 00:40:41,789
there's dawn said this is the belief in

962
00:40:47,210 --> 00:40:44,069
something that's going to happen and

963
00:40:49,650 --> 00:40:47,220
this plays a great part in people

964
00:40:53,579 --> 00:40:49,660
becoming ill because they think they've

965
00:40:56,490 --> 00:40:53,589
just been sneezed upon I mean unusually

966
00:40:59,460 --> 00:40:56,500
that example and it's not that many

967
00:41:03,180 --> 00:40:59,470
years ago when some experiments were

968
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:03,190
done by the medical establishment using

969
00:41:09,779 --> 00:41:07,140
groups of men who had got I think it was

970
00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:09,789
influenza and they were bringing in

971
00:41:15,269 --> 00:41:12,369
healthy man to sit in front of them

972
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:15,279
whilst the sick person then coughed in

973
00:41:19,259 --> 00:41:17,230
their face I know it sounds disgusted

974
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:19,269
but this was the experiment that they

975
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,440
conducted to see if they could pass the

976
00:41:27,569 --> 00:41:25,599
flu germ through

977
00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:27,579
Maroney talking City a couple of feet

978
00:41:32,339 --> 00:41:30,460
away by coughing straight in the face of

979
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:32,349
the healthy person and they did this

980
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:34,850
numerous times and not one

981
00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:37,910
one of the healthy people caught the flu

982
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:40,340
so that started to tell you this again

983
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:41,810
it's another one of these holes that

984
00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:45,170
appears in the idea that you can pass

985
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,580
your arms through the air to another

986
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:49,040
person in close proximity and give them

987
00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:52,310
your flu and there are many cases like

988
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,590
this just because this is a particularly

989
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:56,240
interesting one it shows one of the

990
00:42:01,780 --> 00:41:58,850
holes in the medical establishments

991
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:01,790
theories is in the late nineteenth

992
00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:04,850
century dr. Robert [\h__\h] some people may

993
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:06,020
have heard of and the medical

994
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:08,390
establishment still used today what it

995
00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:13,550
called the [\h__\h] postulates okay now one

996
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:15,350
of what I think is the most telling of

997
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:20,320
his posters is that he said that

998
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:23,770
any sick person you should always be

999
00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:27,460
able to find the germ in that person

1000
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:30,460
that has caught the disease so whatever

1001
00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:32,500
it is you know say it was diphtheria or

1002
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:35,140
tuberculosis or something like that that

1003
00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:37,030
a person that is sick with it you should

1004
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:39,820
always be able to find the germ in their

1005
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:42,610
system that has caused it okay and that

1006
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:45,250
sounds pretty sound reasoning and yet

1007
00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:47,920
there are many many many instances where

1008
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:50,140
that is proved not to be true someone

1009
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:52,540
let's say has got tuberculosis but they

1010
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:55,060
don't have the I think it's the

1011
00:43:01,560 --> 00:42:58,560
tubercular bacteria in their body and

1012
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:01,570
also the same thing the way they done

1013
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:03,610
tests with people with diphtheria and

1014
00:43:09,090 --> 00:43:05,590
yet they did not got the bacteria in

1015
00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:09,100
their body so again that blows big holes

1016
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:11,560
in the medical establishments theory

1017
00:43:15,690 --> 00:43:13,540
that you know the germs cause the

1018
00:43:17,610 --> 00:43:15,700
disease when people can have the disease

1019
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:17,620
but not have the German their body and

1020
00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:19,390
you've actually got the converse of that

1021
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:22,750
as well so it's just or more of this

1022
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:24,790
evidence that just shows their theories

1023
00:43:30,270 --> 00:43:26,950
are just that they are totally unproven

1024
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:30,280
and totally unscientific yes I think

1025
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:32,590
those are great responses and in

1026
00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:34,570
particular the placebo effect we think

1027
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:36,940
of it in the context of healing but it

1028
00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:39,880
could also work on the flip side of

1029
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:41,830
getting sick if you think you're gonna

1030
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:45,040
get sick absolutely and man time is

1031
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:46,480
really flying by here there was

1032
00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:48,070
something I wanted to get into in the

1033
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,260
first hour you know before we eclipsed

1034
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:53,440
that and that is plagues because we have

1035
00:43:59,850 --> 00:43:56,650
this history that involves outbreaks

1036
00:44:01,500 --> 00:43:59,860
like the black plague or smallpox even

1037
00:44:03,450 --> 00:44:01,510
using it to kill the Native Americans

1038
00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:03,460
they talked about or malaria which we're

1039
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:05,020
told comes from mosquito bites

1040
00:44:09,150 --> 00:44:07,510
so in the book you talk about the fact

1041
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:09,160
that there have been three major plague

1042
00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:11,050
outbreaks in history the plague of

1043
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:13,720
Athens in the 5th century the plague of

1044
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,390
Justinian and the 6th and the Black

1045
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:18,880
Death in the 14th century which was said

1046
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:21,040
to have killed 50 million people

1047
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:23,550
worldwide you write in the book

1048
00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:25,510
fortunately when it comes to the Black

1049
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:28,390
Death several contemporary eyewitness

1050
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:30,790
accounts have survived that enable us to

1051
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:32,110
have a better understand

1052
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:34,690
of the prevailing conditions which in

1053
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:37,720
turn offer a better explanation than

1054
00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:40,530
that of an infectious bacterial disease

1055
00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:44,200
this was so fascinating there's a couple

1056
00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:45,790
elements here but can you elaborate on

1057
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:49,060
the conventional story and what these

1058
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:51,970
eyewitness accounts tell us something

1059
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:53,810
happened

1060
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:55,790
yes roll my Black Death is a

1061
00:45:01,120 --> 00:44:57,530
particularly good one because it was

1062
00:45:02,830 --> 00:45:01,130
always told as a frightening story to

1063
00:45:04,980 --> 00:45:02,840
everyone and we were always told it was

1064
00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:04,990
all to do with the fleas on rats

1065
00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:07,820
transmitting a bacteria to people which

1066
00:45:12,310 --> 00:45:09,500
then gave them this horrible disease

1067
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:12,320
which for the most part people died off

1068
00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:16,190
and this was believed and propagated by

1069
00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:17,660
the medical establishment and the

1070
00:45:21,850 --> 00:45:19,910
authorities generally right up to very

1071
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:21,860
recently up until a few years ago where

1072
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,560
various researchers other than us were

1073
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:26,480
looking into it and realized that they

1074
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:29,260
didn't hold up you know they rat fleas

1075
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:31,250
transmitting this bacteria that the

1076
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:34,310
whole thing was just a fallacy okay so

1077
00:45:38,170 --> 00:45:36,830
then the next question is well okay well

1078
00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:38,180
people were certainly getting ill and

1079
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:41,900
dying so what was it and a guy Mike

1080
00:45:47,230 --> 00:45:43,970
Bailey who actually is a

1081
00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:47,240
dendrochronologist he studying tree

1082
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:49,670
rings of all things but because of his

1083
00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:52,160
research I think he was at her Irish

1084
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:55,070
University because of his research he

1085
00:46:01,090 --> 00:45:56,510
could find out what the atmosphere was

1086
00:46:03,850 --> 00:46:01,100
at various times in history

1087
00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:03,860
and cutting a very long story short but

1088
00:46:07,210 --> 00:46:05,390
if you can get hold of it it's a very

1089
00:46:09,730 --> 00:46:07,220
good book to read called new light on

1090
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:09,740
the Black Death by Mike Bailey I would

1091
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:11,030
recommend it because it's very

1092
00:46:14,370 --> 00:46:11,810
enlightening

1093
00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:14,380
but his quite conclusively shows that

1094
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:18,080
during the period of the Black Death the

1095
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:21,110
Earth's atmosphere was highly polluted

1096
00:46:26,830 --> 00:46:25,070
poisonous Lisa and from the various

1097
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:26,840
elements that appeared in the atmosphere

1098
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,160
these appear in the tree rings which

1099
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:32,720
Mike Bailey was able to analyze and show

1100
00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:34,670
what the levels of pollution were and

1101
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:36,980
why it was so poisonous and it was this

1102
00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:38,570
was the sort of thing that people were

1103
00:46:43,690 --> 00:46:41,240
dying go having such wide areas and so

1104
00:46:46,450 --> 00:46:43,700
quickly and there's also eyewitness

1105
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:46,460
accounts of you know the Seas boiling

1106
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:49,070
and lots of fish coming to the surface

1107
00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:52,130
that were come to the surface dead well

1108
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:53,720
they certainly not going to have been

1109
00:46:57,790 --> 00:46:56,480
affected by ran fleas you know so he's

1110
00:47:01,870 --> 00:46:57,800
quite obvious there was something else

1111
00:47:04,180 --> 00:47:01,880
happening and the evidence definitely

1112
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:04,190
points to a poisoned atmosphere which

1113
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:06,530
seems to have been caused again the

1114
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:09,010
record support this by comet debris

1115
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:11,210
entering the Earth's atmosphere and

1116
00:47:15,550 --> 00:47:13,310
poisoning it that's the short story

1117
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:15,560
which then fits in with all of these

1118
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:17,800
other strange experiences of people

1119
00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:21,440
seeing sort of very dark and stinking

1120
00:47:27,370 --> 00:47:24,500
atmospheres and dropping down dead as a

1121
00:47:30,289 --> 00:47:27,380
sail rivers and lakes becoming polluted

1122
00:47:33,709 --> 00:47:30,299
and killing all the fish

1123
00:47:37,789 --> 00:47:33,719
and this has much more credence again

1124
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:37,799
with Mike Bayless work of a worldwide or

1125
00:47:42,829 --> 00:47:40,410
certainly worldwide spread around the

1126
00:47:45,669 --> 00:47:42,839
world poisoned atmosphere rather than

1127
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:45,679
anything to do with fleas on rats so

1128
00:47:53,449 --> 00:47:50,729
again a very interesting subject indeed

1129
00:47:55,759 --> 00:47:53,459
in fact his book is called new light on

1130
00:47:58,999 --> 00:47:55,769
the Black Death the cosmic connection

1131
00:48:01,189 --> 00:47:59,009
and the quote you have in your book is

1132
00:48:02,479 --> 00:48:01,199
that he he kind of says you know look

1133
00:48:04,969 --> 00:48:02,489
there really isn't enough information

1134
00:48:08,179 --> 00:48:04,979
about comets and earthquakes and

1135
00:48:10,699 --> 00:48:08,189
ammonium to be conclusive but it is

1136
00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:10,709
quite a serious suggestion that the

1137
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:13,319
black death was due to an impact by

1138
00:48:19,429 --> 00:48:18,209
comet debris on January 25th 1348 and I

1139
00:48:21,439 --> 00:48:19,439
just think that's really interesting you

1140
00:48:23,630 --> 00:48:21,449
talk about ice cores and of course his

1141
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:23,640
tree rings backing this up that there

1142
00:48:27,849 --> 00:48:25,380
was some environmental issue that was

1143
00:48:30,949 --> 00:48:27,859
much bigger than an invisible virus and

1144
00:48:34,219 --> 00:48:30,959
to go back to the rats then you talk

1145
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:34,229
about anthropologist Barney Sloane and

1146
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:37,170
he says excavations in the City of

1147
00:48:41,439 --> 00:48:38,729
London have turned up very little

1148
00:48:44,089 --> 00:48:41,449
evidence of a mass rat die-off

1149
00:48:46,759 --> 00:48:44,099
coinciding with the plague so the story

1150
00:48:49,849 --> 00:48:46,769
we have the evidence for it isn't there

1151
00:48:51,439 --> 00:48:49,859
yet we do have this other collection of

1152
00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:51,449
evidence that is not in the official

1153
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,390
story that seems to be a giant

1154
00:48:59,179 --> 00:48:57,119
contributor but I guess the question

1155
00:49:01,880 --> 00:48:59,189
that I would still have is ok so a

1156
00:49:04,429 --> 00:49:01,890
comment came in a meteor came in I've

1157
00:49:06,919 --> 00:49:04,439
heard people talk about those containing

1158
00:49:10,219 --> 00:49:06,929
viruses what what kind of poisons do you

1159
00:49:12,229 --> 00:49:10,229
think that would contain that would

1160
00:49:14,449 --> 00:49:12,239
cause this kind of situation if not a

1161
00:49:16,789 --> 00:49:14,459
virus or some kind of foreign bacteria

1162
00:49:18,529 --> 00:49:16,799
we also have the thing about people

1163
00:49:21,319 --> 00:49:18,539
traveling internationally the

1164
00:49:23,089 --> 00:49:21,329
conquistadors the colonialists bringing

1165
00:49:24,620 --> 00:49:23,099
over diseases the Native Americans

1166
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:24,630
weren't ready for and that could be a

1167
00:49:27,439 --> 00:49:26,249
cover story because it's like hey we

1168
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:27,449
didn't want to kill them all they just

1169
00:49:31,249 --> 00:49:29,849
got sick I don't know what to do but

1170
00:49:32,109 --> 00:49:31,259
what are your thoughts on some of these

1171
00:49:34,999 --> 00:49:32,119
things

1172
00:49:39,229 --> 00:49:35,009
yeah that's certainly the cover story

1173
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:39,239
because again referring to another

1174
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:42,119
extremely important book called American

1175
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:43,710
Holocaust by

1176
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:47,730
dr. David Stannard he has undertaken

1177
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:50,490
quite a lot of research and put together

1178
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,520
an extremely important book showing how

1179
00:49:59,890 --> 00:49:56,640
a lot of contemporary evidence about

1180
00:50:03,740 --> 00:49:59,900
what happened when the conquistadors

1181
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:03,750
arrived on the shores obviously got to

1182
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:06,890
be careful never to an American but

1183
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:09,330
really what happened it was pretty

1184
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:14,250
brutal and it's possibly a good idea to

1185
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,750
say oh well you know they just brought

1186
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,000
their diseases because then it kind of

1187
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,160
diverts attention away from some of the

1188
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:23,280
more horrific aspects of what happened

1189
00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:27,170
because the invaders wanted the gold and

1190
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:29,790
they pushed people off their land so

1191
00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:32,160
people weren't able to grow their own

1192
00:50:37,099 --> 00:50:34,470
food anymore and they were pushed into

1193
00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:37,109
gold mines and that's particularly where

1194
00:50:40,849 --> 00:50:38,040
that's going to be particularly

1195
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:40,859
horrendous plantations they were slaves

1196
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:41,849
on plantations

1197
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:44,609
so all these horrendous acts are asked

1198
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:46,260
to put to one side because I said I

1199
00:50:51,170 --> 00:50:49,410
wouldn't know it was smallpox now we do

1200
00:50:53,420 --> 00:50:51,180
talk about smallpox quite a bit in the

1201
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:53,430
book because it's the first disease for

1202
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:55,890
which vaccines were developed and again

1203
00:51:01,790 --> 00:50:57,720
that's down to a chemist Edward Jenner

1204
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:01,800
rather than a doctor and the whole idea

1205
00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:05,369
that smallpox was caused by some kind of

1206
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:08,670
germ although at the time it wasn't part

1207
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:10,770
of the germ theory but the idea that

1208
00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:14,010
smallpox could be prevented by vaccines

1209
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:16,320
but it was the first disease that was

1210
00:51:20,660 --> 00:51:19,140
thought to be contagious well let me

1211
00:51:22,730 --> 00:51:20,670
just come in on this because Doyle

1212
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:22,740
mentioned earlier a book about the

1213
00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:24,900
American Holocaust for the whole of the

1214
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:26,430
Americas you know although it happened

1215
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,260
at different times in the South America

1216
00:51:31,940 --> 00:51:30,240
when they conquested or moved in but

1217
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:31,950
something very similar happened any

1218
00:51:37,029 --> 00:51:33,930
North America went and the British moved

1219
00:51:38,589 --> 00:51:37,039
in but in both cases

1220
00:51:40,959 --> 00:51:38,599
particularly in South America with the

1221
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:40,969
conquest adores that occupation was

1222
00:51:46,299 --> 00:51:43,369
particularly brutal and dr. Stan Hart

1223
00:51:48,969 --> 00:51:46,309
goes into it in quite revealing detail

1224
00:51:50,919 --> 00:51:48,979
and it's quite hard reading to see what

1225
00:51:52,659 --> 00:51:50,929
went off what is based on his eyewitness

1226
00:51:55,390 --> 00:51:52,669
accounts but yeah the people were

1227
00:51:57,909 --> 00:51:55,400
slaughtered in large numbers chased off

1228
00:52:00,329 --> 00:51:57,919
their land so people were then dying of

1229
00:52:03,669 --> 00:52:00,339
starvation so all of the normal

1230
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:03,679
so-called diseases come in represented

1231
00:52:08,739 --> 00:52:06,650
with severe malnutrition but worse than

1232
00:52:11,709 --> 00:52:08,749
that they can quested or was enslaved

1233
00:52:13,059 --> 00:52:11,719
what people they could catch and because

1234
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:13,069
they were only there for the gold and

1235
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:15,559
silver and so they were forced into the

1236
00:52:20,259 --> 00:52:18,529
mines a slave labor where many of them

1237
00:52:22,029 --> 00:52:20,269
died because one of the things that can

1238
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,039
Crysta doors thought was seemed a good

1239
00:52:25,779 --> 00:52:24,319
idea to them is there was lots of Native

1240
00:52:27,999 --> 00:52:25,789
people around so they didn't need to

1241
00:52:29,799 --> 00:52:28,009
bother feeding them as the people died

1242
00:52:32,259 --> 00:52:29,809
they were just disposed of and they

1243
00:52:33,849 --> 00:52:32,269
bought more people in hard to believe I

1244
00:52:36,279 --> 00:52:33,859
know but there is evidence to support

1245
00:52:38,469 --> 00:52:36,289
this so they're responsible for almost

1246
00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:38,479
wiping out the entire population of

1247
00:52:43,390 --> 00:52:41,150
South America and up through the islands

1248
00:52:45,549 --> 00:52:43,400
surrounding it and he was nothing to do

1249
00:52:47,649 --> 00:52:45,559
with them bringing their diseases over

1250
00:52:49,899 --> 00:52:47,659
but it's much easier to talk about oh

1251
00:52:51,459 --> 00:52:49,909
yeah well that can crystal doors came

1252
00:52:53,469 --> 00:52:51,469
across you know they didn't know they've

1253
00:52:55,419 --> 00:52:53,479
got these diseases and you know the

1254
00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:55,429
local population didn't have any

1255
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,529
immunity and they died off you know most

1256
00:53:01,630 --> 00:52:59,359
regrettable but not really our fault

1257
00:53:03,309 --> 00:53:01,640
sort of thing really rather than facing

1258
00:53:06,399 --> 00:53:03,319
the brutal facts of what they actually

1259
00:53:09,099 --> 00:53:06,409
did to the local inhabitants which was

1260
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:09,109
horrific I mean these people these can

1261
00:53:14,019 --> 00:53:12,169
Krista doors who sort of came up against

1262
00:53:16,839 --> 00:53:14,029
the local inhabitants I mean they had

1263
00:53:19,630 --> 00:53:16,849
things like armored dogs which were

1264
00:53:22,569 --> 00:53:19,640
trained to literally chase people down

1265
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:22,579
and rip them apart and they they use

1266
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:25,130
these to hunt down the local populace I

1267
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:26,839
mean I won't go on to enter this from

1268
00:53:30,699 --> 00:53:29,089
too much detail but I do if anyone wants

1269
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:30,709
to know what a real Holocaust is about

1270
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:32,630
then have a read or what happened in

1271
00:53:37,390 --> 00:53:35,209
South America the true story which is as

1272
00:53:40,449 --> 00:53:37,400
I say nothing to do with smallpox or any

1273
00:53:43,059 --> 00:53:40,459
other disease is to do with pure

1274
00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:43,069
brutality and wholesale slaughter of

1275
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:44,280
people

1276
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:47,310
and mass starvation and those were the

1277
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:49,380
real killers at what happened in South

1278
00:53:54,140 --> 00:53:51,090
America and something very similar

1279
00:53:57,020 --> 00:53:54,150
happened in North America too with the

1280
00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:57,030
North American natives well that

1281
00:54:01,460 --> 00:53:58,920
definitely makes sense to me I think

1282
00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:01,470
that's a really great breakdown and we

1283
00:54:06,770 --> 00:54:03,950
do have this long history of we're told

1284
00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:06,780
diseases and viruses so the conversation

1285
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:08,280
can quickly turn into well how do we

1286
00:54:12,050 --> 00:54:09,870
explain this situation how do we explain

1287
00:54:14,330 --> 00:54:12,060
that situation and there does have to be

1288
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:14,340
some answer and clearly I think I feel

1289
00:54:19,310 --> 00:54:16,260
like your book lays out some really

1290
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,320
great alternatives for every case and I

1291
00:54:23,410 --> 00:54:21,660
did want to as we're still in that first

1292
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:23,420
hour try to throw in something about

1293
00:54:28,370 --> 00:54:25,950
coronavirus I mean before when we talked

1294
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,380
about the Black Death it's like yeah

1295
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:31,200
comet or meteor came in the skies and

1296
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,510
waters were very clearly contaminated

1297
00:54:37,930 --> 00:54:35,280
this is a big thing you can still find

1298
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:37,940
in tree rings today apparently so

1299
00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:40,290
obviously that was a giant environmental

1300
00:54:43,930 --> 00:54:41,640
thing maybe they didn't know what was

1301
00:54:46,970 --> 00:54:43,940
going on at that time depth but

1302
00:54:49,220 --> 00:54:46,980
coronavirus today people are seemingly

1303
00:54:51,050 --> 00:54:49,230
getting sick I'm totally on board with

1304
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,060
the idea that the media is blowing this

1305
00:54:55,580 --> 00:54:53,760
up a lot bigger than maybe it needs to

1306
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:55,590
be but how do we explain what's

1307
00:55:01,160 --> 00:54:57,570
happening to people in this situation

1308
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:01,170
okay well one we need to just cast our

1309
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:03,480
minds back as to where we started

1310
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:05,970
with this conversation about how we are

1311
00:55:11,570 --> 00:55:09,720
told by the establishment and propagated

1312
00:55:13,460 --> 00:55:11,580
by the media various stories about

1313
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:13,470
things as we mentioned earlier whether

1314
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,610
it's 9/11 or JFK's assassination or even

1315
00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:18,720
start to get Nam war

1316
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,150
we're told things that then subsequently

1317
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:23,760
turned out not to be true and we've had

1318
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:26,610
these various virus scares before

1319
00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:29,970
whether it's ours or Ebola or even HIV

1320
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:32,430
and we talked quite a bit about hiv/aids

1321
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:35,730
and how that's proved not to be I mean

1322
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:38,250
in the 80s I'm old enough to know when

1323
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:40,650
this all first started and we were told

1324
00:55:43,970 --> 00:55:42,030
this was going to be a scourge of the

1325
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:43,980
earth and millions and millions of

1326
00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:45,690
people are going to die and things will

1327
00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:47,220
never be the same again well obviously

1328
00:55:51,830 --> 00:55:49,980
that never transpired and we can talk

1329
00:55:54,460 --> 00:55:51,840
more about HIV and AIDS because that's

1330
00:55:56,890 --> 00:55:54,470
another fallacy that's been put out

1331
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:56,900
the true causes of that diseases we can

1332
00:56:01,660 --> 00:55:59,330
talk about later if we have time so

1333
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:01,670
we're told a lot of information which

1334
00:56:05,710 --> 00:56:03,680
subsequently proves not to be true and I

1335
00:56:07,690 --> 00:56:05,720
firmly believe and I think many people

1336
00:56:10,810 --> 00:56:07,700
are latching on to it now that this

1337
00:56:13,210 --> 00:56:10,820
coronavirus thing is yet another one of

1338
00:56:16,570 --> 00:56:13,220
those and I think and this is me

1339
00:56:18,460 --> 00:56:16,580
speculating now slightly that what we

1340
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:18,470
could be witnessing here is what people

1341
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:21,410
may know as a PSYOP we know from all the

1342
00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:22,430
things that we've just been talking

1343
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:24,320
about it's certainly nothing to do with

1344
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:26,810
a virus so we've got to ask ourselves or

1345
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:30,290
what is happening but we have to also

1346
00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:32,570
ask ourselves is what's coming out

1347
00:56:36,250 --> 00:56:34,070
through the media and that's what we've

1348
00:56:38,290 --> 00:56:36,260
got to go on is it actually true are

1349
00:56:41,230 --> 00:56:38,300
these numbers of people that are

1350
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:41,240
suddenly becoming ill is it true the

1351
00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:43,250
numbers of people dying is it true if

1352
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:45,500
there are people dying what are they

1353
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,330
really doing or you know there could be

1354
00:56:53,530 --> 00:56:49,760
all sorts of things that we're not being

1355
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:53,540
told and as we know in China they've not

1356
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,000
got the best records for containing

1357
00:57:02,140 --> 00:56:59,359
their pollution so we could have within

1358
00:57:05,230 --> 00:57:02,150
that area and it's all centered in Wuhan

1359
00:57:06,970 --> 00:57:05,240
iznik one area we might have to look at

1360
00:57:09,609 --> 00:57:06,980
what the industry is round there what

1361
00:57:12,190 --> 00:57:09,619
sort of factories and things are we

1362
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:12,200
witnessing an escape of certain

1363
00:57:16,270 --> 00:57:13,970
pollutants which has happened in the

1364
00:57:18,609 --> 00:57:16,280
world before in different countries and

1365
00:57:23,530 --> 00:57:18,619
killed thousands of people thinking of

1366
00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:23,540
one in India the Bhopal incident so I

1367
00:57:28,270 --> 00:57:25,550
think that was eventually shown to be

1368
00:57:30,460 --> 00:57:28,280
Union Carbide with an escape of some of

1369
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:30,470
its noxious materials which wiped out

1370
00:57:35,050 --> 00:57:32,690
thousands and we could be looking at

1371
00:57:38,589 --> 00:57:35,060
something similar to that but as someone

1372
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:38,599
very wisely said it's much easier to

1373
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,550
blame a virus because you can't sue a

1374
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:43,040
virus but you can sue a chemical company

1375
00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:45,910
and it could be as simple as that so

1376
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:48,760
people need to be very careful about

1377
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:51,470
accepting information given out by the

1378
00:57:56,740 --> 00:57:54,050
authorities so that's one thing and the

1379
00:57:58,980 --> 00:57:56,750
other is as we know and I'm sure many of

1380
00:58:01,930 --> 00:57:58,990
your listeners are quite aware of

1381
00:58:04,049 --> 00:58:01,940
various globalist agendas shall we say

1382
00:58:06,479 --> 00:58:04,059
for work

1383
00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:06,489
and we could be looking at a social

1384
00:58:11,339 --> 00:58:09,400
experiment here of seeing how they can

1385
00:58:12,749 --> 00:58:11,349
lock down the country in fact lock down

1386
00:58:15,319 --> 00:58:12,759
the world if they get their way and

1387
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:15,329
scare monger people into believing

1388
00:58:20,459 --> 00:58:18,130
something again blaming a virus which

1389
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:20,469
we've talked about and see just how far

1390
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:22,689
they can go with it and on the back of

1391
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:25,930
this as many people already fearing they

1392
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:28,569
are racing to produce a vaccine for this

1393
00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:31,390
corona virus and what's the betting

1394
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:32,680
they're then going to try and make it

1395
00:58:36,570 --> 00:58:35,049
compulsory and so bring in compulsory

1396
00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:36,580
vaccination

1397
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:39,310
not only just in a country but you know

1398
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:41,410
their extreme dream come true they can

1399
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:43,030
bring it in to have compulsory

1400
00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:45,070
vaccination worldwide I mean that

1401
00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:47,260
certainly a dream of the vaccine makers

1402
00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:49,390
and we could be witnessing something

1403
00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:52,180
like that I mean you've only got a look

1404
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:53,260
at some of the things that have gone off

1405
00:58:57,150 --> 00:58:55,210
with the corona bias I mean it's been

1406
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,160
made law in China that everyone has to

1407
00:59:02,790 --> 00:58:59,920
wear one of these masks which you see

1408
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:02,800
everyone wearing and yet even doctors in

1409
00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:04,930
this country have admitted that because

1410
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:06,820
they believe in viral infections that

1411
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:09,370
you know remember viruses are so small

1412
00:59:13,770 --> 00:59:11,530
tiny tiny tiny things you can only see

1413
00:59:15,540 --> 00:59:13,780
with an electron microscope so these

1414
00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:15,550
masks would be if it was a viral

1415
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:17,260
infection would be of no use whatsoever

1416
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:19,450
the virus would pass straight through it

1417
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:21,490
an infected person if that were the case

1418
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:24,930
and yet here we have a country now

1419
00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:27,160
basically on the martial law and

1420
00:59:31,770 --> 00:59:29,590
everyone has to wear a mask even though

1421
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:31,780
their own scientists of that know that

1422
00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:34,240
that would do no good whatsoever so it

1423
00:59:38,370 --> 00:59:35,620
just shows the nonsense that's being

1424
00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:38,380
talked and put out so I think we have to

1425
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:40,660
be very very careful in believing what

1426
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:42,760
the media tell us remembering that the

1427
00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:45,850
media are just mouthpieces they don't

1428
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:48,100
have any technical ability of their own

1429
00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:49,390
they certainly don't do any proper

1430
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:51,700
research they just do what they're told

1431
00:59:55,170 --> 00:59:53,230
they're given the script they announce

1432
00:59:58,410 --> 00:59:55,180
it to the public and that's as far as it

1433
01:00:00,570 --> 00:59:58,420
goes there are suggestions and some

1434
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:00,580
reports as well that the corona virus

1435
01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:04,720
may be a bioweapon and we need to stop

1436
01:00:10,140 --> 01:00:06,460
that one in its tracks as well because

1437
01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:10,150
obviously a virus being a nonliving

1438
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:13,600
particle cannot be made into something

1439
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:16,870
that of what some kind of weapon yes it

1440
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:19,090
cannot be recognized that doesn't mean

1441
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:22,590
that certain particles cannot be

1442
01:00:27,810 --> 01:00:25,450
poisoned with chemicals and turned into

1443
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,820
something that's then aerosol spraying

1444
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:29,680
into the atmosphere this is something

1445
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:31,930
that's extremely toxic that people can't

1446
01:00:38,370 --> 01:00:35,520
become ill with now the first cases of

1447
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:38,380
corona virus and I think most of them

1448
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:40,930
are cases that that effect there the

1449
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:42,670
spirit ori system and i think i've

1450
01:00:46,350 --> 01:00:44,710
rented through first 99 cases were

1451
01:00:49,350 --> 01:00:46,360
people who also

1452
01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:49,360
had all people who had pneumonia so if

1453
01:00:54,210 --> 01:00:52,510
they've got you mightyou then I don't

1454
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:54,220
know why they need to find some other

1455
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:57,730
kind of virus or claim to have some

1456
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:00,640
other kind of virus but if something has

1457
01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:02,410
affected their respective system it's

1458
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:04,270
definitely something in the atmosphere

1459
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:06,970
in the environment that people draw see

1460
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:09,610
breathing in the tar that's something

1461
01:01:12,750 --> 01:01:11,290
that's really badly affecting their

1462
01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:12,760
lungs they were spiritually and

1463
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:14,680
obviously the symptoms that come with it

1464
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,210
are all the sort of coughing sneezing

1465
01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:18,160
fever because the body's trying to expel

1466
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:21,550
these poisons so if it is some kind of

1467
01:01:25,590 --> 01:01:23,650
poison in the atmosphere whether it's

1468
01:01:28,530 --> 01:01:25,600
been intentionally put in there whether

1469
01:01:32,130 --> 01:01:28,540
the idea of a bio weapon is another

1470
01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:32,140
aspect of the SIOP it's not possible to

1471
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:35,080
say but these are all sorts of ideas and

1472
01:01:41,340 --> 01:01:37,810
they could be being put out just to see

1473
01:01:43,350 --> 01:01:41,350
how the public react to see how far they

1474
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:43,360
can go with these ideas and I know this

1475
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:45,310
is probably quite radical but but the

1476
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:47,710
point is that it's not anything to do

1477
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:50,110
with a virus that can be sprayed that's

1478
01:01:56,220 --> 01:01:52,710
going to be the next pandemic the next

1479
01:01:59,070 --> 01:01:56,230
hiv/aids disaster the next black death

1480
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:59,080
disaster the next 1918 flu disaster

1481
01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:00,400
because again we can talk about that if

1482
01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:02,140
you want to but you know these are

1483
01:02:08,190 --> 01:02:04,540
called massive pandemics and none of

1484
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:08,200
them are as we are told so we don't know

1485
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:10,720
what it is they're trying to do but just

1486
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:13,450
be very very careful and people should

1487
01:02:20,670 --> 01:02:17,410
try not to be fearful of a virus because

1488
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:20,680
it certainly isn't that whatever else he

1489
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:24,510
might be certainly not a virus right

1490
01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:27,790
well definitely a lot to unpack because

1491
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:31,120
this overall germ bacteria virus theory

1492
01:02:36,450 --> 01:02:34,240
it affects so many different areas and

1493
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:36,460
as we're starting to wrap this thing up

1494
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:38,650
I wanted to reiterate again the four

1495
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:41,170
factors that you have talked about in

1496
01:02:46,460 --> 01:02:43,930
the book and earlier that would be the

1497
01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:46,470
causes for us getting sick bad nutrition

1498
01:02:53,310 --> 01:02:50,590
toxic exposure electromagnetic radiation

1499
01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:53,320
and EMF exposure and then stressed those

1500
01:02:59,100 --> 01:02:55,240
would be the four things that actually

1501
01:03:00,420 --> 01:02:59,110
get people sick and the solutions to

1502
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:00,430
keeping us healthy

1503
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:03,190
or in a healthy state would be basically

1504
01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:05,950
to avoid these four factors and we did

1505
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:08,920
mention dr. Caroline Dean and her book

1506
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:11,049
death by modern medicine earlier she

1507
01:03:15,930 --> 01:03:12,880
also has a book called the magnesium

1508
01:03:18,029 --> 01:03:15,940
miracle and to quote that it is a

1509
01:03:20,339 --> 01:03:18,039
comprehensive guide to one of the most

1510
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:20,349
essential but often overlooked minerals

1511
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:22,930
magnesium which guards against and helps

1512
01:03:28,099 --> 01:03:25,920
to alleviate heart disease stroke

1513
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:28,109
osteoporosis diabetes depression

1514
01:03:32,849 --> 01:03:30,880
arthritis and asthma and that's just

1515
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:32,859
interesting I mean sometimes eating

1516
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:35,950
right isn't as easy as it sounds can you

1517
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:38,530
elaborate as we're ending this thing on

1518
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:41,170
techniques to stay healthy or vitamins

1519
01:03:45,799 --> 01:03:42,730
and minerals that you think are most

1520
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:45,809
crucial to staying in a healthy state

1521
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:48,430
the short answer is yes she's absolutely

1522
01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:50,710
right magnesium along with many other

1523
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:52,990
minerals and vitamins are essential for

1524
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:55,599
the body but we would disagree that you

1525
01:03:59,849 --> 01:03:57,609
need any large amounts of it the amount

1526
01:04:02,940 --> 01:03:59,859
of magnesium a healthy body needs is

1527
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:02,950
very very tiny and is easily assimilated

1528
01:04:09,870 --> 01:04:07,410
from the plants that you eat okay now

1529
01:04:12,450 --> 01:04:09,880
we'd already mentioned earlier that we

1530
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:12,460
recommend a plant-based diet vegan if

1531
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:14,799
you can do it but we'd also recommend

1532
01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:17,200
that you try as much as you can to get

1533
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:19,720
organically grown food and the reason

1534
01:04:25,289 --> 01:04:22,690
for this is that if the food that you

1535
01:04:28,049 --> 01:04:25,299
get from your supermarket or wherever is

1536
01:04:31,319 --> 01:04:28,059
not organic the chances are it's being

1537
01:04:34,019 --> 01:04:31,329
grown in ground which is had chemical

1538
01:04:36,450 --> 01:04:34,029
fertilizers on it which deplete the

1539
01:04:38,779 --> 01:04:36,460
ground of natural minerals particularly

1540
01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:38,789
things like magnesium so the plant in

1541
01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:42,460
its growth has not been able to take in

1542
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:44,950
all of the nutrients that it would

1543
01:04:49,289 --> 01:04:46,990
normally have and so then it's been able

1544
01:04:53,130 --> 01:04:49,299
to pass those on the humans eating them

1545
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:53,140
but if you are buying organic food of

1546
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,609
course those types of chemical

1547
01:04:58,829 --> 01:04:57,039
fertilizers are not allowed in the soil

1548
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:58,839
and the soil has to pass certain tests

1549
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:01,599
to be healthy so then the food that's

1550
01:05:06,359 --> 01:05:04,240
grown in it is healthy and a person

1551
01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:06,369
eating that food will have all the

1552
01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:08,470
nutrients vitamins and minerals that

1553
01:05:11,890 --> 01:05:10,660
they need they do not need to take any

1554
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:11,900
additional supplement

1555
01:05:16,569 --> 01:05:14,930
and in most cases unfortunately the

1556
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:16,579
supplements that people would buy from

1557
01:05:22,059 --> 01:05:18,710
the local health shop because they're

1558
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:22,069
artificially made in most cases they're

1559
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:24,410
not either not easily assimilated by the

1560
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,170
body or not assimilated at all so you

1561
01:05:32,289 --> 01:05:29,359
sort of wasting your money rarely the

1562
01:05:34,089 --> 01:05:32,299
best and most perfect way to get all the

1563
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:34,099
nutrients you need is to just have a

1564
01:05:39,849 --> 01:05:37,369
healthy diet with plenty of fresh fruit

1565
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:39,859
and vegetables which are delia grown

1566
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:43,369
organically and unless you cook them the

1567
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:46,880
more nutrients they retain and the rule

1568
01:05:52,180 --> 01:05:50,089
to healthy body are very simple but

1569
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:52,190
they're also quite strict you know

1570
01:05:58,059 --> 01:05:54,710
that's what you need to do and any

1571
01:06:00,970 --> 01:05:58,069
compromise on that will compromise your

1572
01:06:05,019 --> 01:06:00,980
health is as simple as that fair totally

1573
01:06:07,359 --> 01:06:05,029
fair and obviously we threw out some

1574
01:06:10,359 --> 01:06:07,369
radical stuff today some really bold

1575
01:06:12,940 --> 01:06:10,369
claims and you say in the book prove us

1576
01:06:15,789 --> 01:06:12,950
wrong investigate for yourself whether

1577
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:15,799
any virus has been conclusively proven

1578
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:17,720
to be the cause of any infectious

1579
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:20,480
disease any investigation of this nature

1580
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:22,609
should involve contact with the

1581
01:06:26,859 --> 01:06:24,680
organizations that claim viruses to be

1582
01:06:29,890 --> 01:06:26,869
the cause of disease to ask them the

1583
01:06:32,140 --> 01:06:29,900
following questions is there an electron

1584
01:06:34,539 --> 01:06:32,150
micrograph of the pure and fully

1585
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:34,549
characterized virus what is the name of

1586
01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:36,710
the primary specialist peer-reviewed

1587
01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:39,380
paper in which the virus is illustrated

1588
01:06:43,930 --> 01:06:41,119
and it's full genetic information

1589
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:43,940
described and what is the name of the

1590
01:06:48,819 --> 01:06:46,609
primary publication that provides proof

1591
01:06:51,940 --> 01:06:48,829
that a particular virus is the sole

1592
01:06:55,150 --> 01:06:51,950
cause of a particular disease ask those

1593
01:06:57,579 --> 01:06:55,160
questions and I guess you guys are

1594
01:07:00,789 --> 01:06:57,589
confident that the listeners would not

1595
01:07:03,460 --> 01:07:00,799
get any conclusive answers absolutely

1596
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:03,470
we've been asking that question many

1597
01:07:09,250 --> 01:07:05,599
doctors and people for some years now

1598
01:07:11,470 --> 01:07:09,260
and no one and I repeat no one has been

1599
01:07:14,289 --> 01:07:11,480
able to produce that evidence and as we

1600
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:14,299
mentioned earlier dr. Stephan Lanka ask

1601
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:16,160
the same question in a court of law in

1602
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:19,490
Germany only a few years ago and no one

1603
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,240
could provide that proof so they have it

1604
01:07:25,950 --> 01:07:25,039
hmm might be the biggest lie we've ever

1605
01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:25,960
been told

1606
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:28,630
yeah and he's certainly responsible for

1607
01:07:32,339 --> 01:07:29,890
probably more deaths

1608
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:32,349
I can I often remember a quote from

1609
01:07:35,130 --> 01:07:33,130
Napoleon

1610
01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:35,140
you know the French general who is

1611
01:07:39,540 --> 01:07:36,940
quoted as saying to one of his

1612
01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:39,550
physicians that one day to be seen that

1613
01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:41,859
you positions are responsible for more

1614
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:43,900
deaths than all those generals put

1615
01:07:50,099 --> 01:07:48,010
together I think very wise words hi yes

1616
01:07:52,589 --> 01:07:50,109
very wise words indeed and it does make

1617
01:07:55,049 --> 01:07:52,599
me also think about all the generals

1618
01:07:58,410 --> 01:07:55,059
like Napoleon who traveled all over the

1619
01:08:04,109 --> 01:07:58,420
world and didn't die of malaria or at

1620
01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:04,119
whatever whatever but yes man and before

1621
01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:06,460
we go you guys have also written

1622
01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:09,460
together before under the pseudonym n o

1623
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:12,790
R for nature of reality and I don't know

1624
01:08:16,349 --> 01:08:14,319
if you've moved on from there but you do

1625
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:16,359
have a couple books out under that

1626
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:18,880
collective name and I was a bit curious

1627
01:08:24,209 --> 01:08:21,040
about your 2010 book the nature of

1628
01:08:26,519 --> 01:08:24,219
reality exploring the mind/body/spirit

1629
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:26,529
myth you have chapters like the true

1630
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:28,330
nature of time that talks about how you

1631
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:31,210
can learn to manipulate it insights into

1632
01:08:35,550 --> 01:08:33,850
reincarnation and death understanding

1633
01:08:38,249 --> 01:08:35,560
dreams and even a section called the

1634
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:38,259
magical approach to living and I know

1635
01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:41,140
that's surely an entire interview on its

1636
01:08:45,660 --> 01:08:43,150
own but I wanted to at least let people

1637
01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:45,670
know that was out there and if you have

1638
01:08:49,890 --> 01:08:47,980
any cliff notes or an elevator pitch for

1639
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,900
that book are there any parts you think

1640
01:08:53,820 --> 01:08:52,000
would interest people or does it tie

1641
01:08:57,229 --> 01:08:53,830
into the things we talked about today in

1642
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,239
any interesting way you know yes I mean

1643
01:09:03,390 --> 01:08:59,759
congratulations to you director it says

1644
01:09:05,550 --> 01:09:03,400
but yes that was some years ago but yes

1645
01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:05,560
the nature of reality book is probably

1646
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:08,049
one of the first works that dawn and I

1647
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:10,719
did because we were fascinated about I

1648
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:13,330
think most people are what is life about

1649
01:09:17,309 --> 01:09:15,489
you know is this some sort of biological

1650
01:09:19,169 --> 01:09:17,319
accident that we're here is there a

1651
01:09:21,329 --> 01:09:19,179
purpose to life what happens to you when

1652
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:21,339
you die do the religions of the world

1653
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:23,890
have any truth in them it's you know or

1654
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:26,230
pretty pretty important stuff really and

1655
01:09:30,809 --> 01:09:28,449
that's really what that books about so

1656
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:30,819
yes you got it right it's a good it's a

1657
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:33,489
good few hours talk all on its own but

1658
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:36,370
he covers many things including probably

1659
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:38,650
in some small way of what

1660
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:40,449
is all about as well as what life is all

1661
01:09:46,890 --> 01:09:44,230
about also it was part of the research

1662
01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:46,900
in compiling that book that made us

1663
01:09:52,559 --> 01:09:49,270
realize the power of beliefs and again

1664
01:09:54,419 --> 01:09:52,569
referring to bruce lipton the biology of

1665
01:09:57,390 --> 01:09:54,429
belief and how your beliefs actually can

1666
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:57,400
affect your health in your body so you

1667
01:10:01,979 --> 01:09:58,960
know the message really is it's not to

1668
01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:01,989
be fearful of viruses and bacteria they

1669
01:10:05,790 --> 01:10:04,030
are not to your enemies but yes

1670
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:05,800
certainly what you believe in and what

1671
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:08,170
you think they're quite powerful

1672
01:10:11,939 --> 01:10:10,090
and I guess if you're going to carry

1673
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:11,949
anything from the nature of reality book

1674
01:10:17,790 --> 01:10:14,820
it is just how powerful beliefs are and

1675
01:10:20,189 --> 01:10:17,800
you know how empowering that can be and

1676
01:10:22,350 --> 01:10:20,199
how good that can be but also they sort

1677
01:10:24,030 --> 01:10:22,360
of negative beliefs just how bad they

1678
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:24,040
can be as you did actually mention

1679
01:10:28,649 --> 01:10:25,840
yourself earlier on in this discussion

1680
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:28,659
and we sort of show that quite a bit in

1681
01:10:33,810 --> 01:10:31,630
that book but it also talked about the

1682
01:10:35,459 --> 01:10:33,820
true nature of reality which is we say

1683
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:35,469
is far stranger than you could possibly

1684
01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:36,400
imagine

1685
01:10:42,180 --> 01:10:40,030
so yes is a small book but highly

1686
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:42,190
recommended of course to your retina to

1687
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:45,190
your listeners very cool very cool well

1688
01:10:49,919 --> 01:10:48,010
are there any links or contact

1689
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:49,929
information to leave people with or

1690
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:51,760
anything about getting this book that

1691
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:53,050
we've talked about today that they

1692
01:10:59,130 --> 01:10:56,050
should know well it simply is going on

1693
01:11:01,020 --> 01:10:59,140
to Amazon either calm or dot u K or any

1694
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:01,030
any Amazon's really wherever you are in

1695
01:11:05,490 --> 01:11:03,730
the world it's on their side you can

1696
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:05,500
either just put in our names or you can

1697
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:07,480
just put in what really makes you will

1698
01:11:12,290 --> 01:11:09,670
and the book will come up it's got a

1699
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:12,300
quite a distinctive cover with Roe dams

1700
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:15,550
sculpture the thinker on the front so it

1701
01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:18,850
is quite distinctive in Kindle versions

1702
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:20,620
as well as the paperback versions yes

1703
01:11:24,899 --> 01:11:22,810
yeah people may want to the electronic

1704
01:11:27,870 --> 01:11:24,909
copy which is I have to say quite a bit

1705
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:27,880
cheaper but has the same information of

1706
01:11:31,979 --> 01:11:29,920
course so people can get whichever is

1707
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:31,989
most convenient and most affordable to

1708
01:11:37,890 --> 01:11:35,260
them they can also look for our other

1709
01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:37,900
books written under our pseudonym at the

1710
01:11:41,850 --> 01:11:39,550
time which was n o R stands for the

1711
01:11:44,370 --> 01:11:41,860
nature of reality there are reasons for

1712
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:44,380
that that I won't go into now but yeah

1713
01:11:49,020 --> 01:11:46,449
it's probably easy to look for that one

1714
01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:49,030
under exploding the mind/body/spirit

1715
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:49,860
myth

1716
01:11:54,379 --> 01:11:52,110
that seems to bring it up more easier

1717
01:11:56,209 --> 01:11:54,389
than going into just the nature of

1718
01:11:59,090 --> 01:11:56,219
reality so exploding the

1719
01:12:03,560 --> 01:11:59,100
mind/body/spirit myth by in a while yeah

1720
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,570
a good read right on right on so yeah

1721
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:06,239
this has been a real pleasure are there

1722
01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:08,340
any plans to work on future books

1723
01:12:12,649 --> 01:12:10,230
together or any topics you're gonna turn

1724
01:12:16,580 --> 01:12:12,659
your attention to next yeah yes

1725
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:16,590
certainly we've probably got about four

1726
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:20,369
books planned that we working on yeah

1727
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:23,040
only I said but we wanted to deal more

1728
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:26,159
with geopolitics and the world banking

1729
01:12:30,890 --> 01:12:28,560
system which is responsible for a lot of

1730
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:30,900
problems so I know people have written

1731
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:33,690
various bits about it but we're trying

1732
01:12:40,370 --> 01:12:37,199
to put all of the stuff together in one

1733
01:12:42,350 --> 01:12:40,380
book that will explain to people just

1734
01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:42,360
what's going off how the world is really

1735
01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:44,369
run who are the power players and

1736
01:12:48,649 --> 01:12:46,920
hopefully what we can do about it to

1737
01:12:52,060 --> 01:12:48,659
protect ourselves from their

1738
01:12:54,260 --> 01:12:52,070
extravagances another one is possibly

1739
01:12:56,990 --> 01:12:54,270
involving the real problems with the

1740
01:13:00,140 --> 01:12:57,000
environment and how the environmental

1741
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:00,150
movement has been completely hijacked by

1742
01:13:05,870 --> 01:13:03,510
this whole global warming stroke climate

1743
01:13:07,879 --> 01:13:05,880
change stroke climate and gender

1744
01:13:10,609 --> 01:13:07,889
whatever it is it's diverting attention

1745
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:10,619
away from the real problems that are

1746
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:13,530
going on in the environment as you said

1747
01:13:18,830 --> 01:13:16,770
quite early on there are lots and lots

1748
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,840
of problems within the environment and

1749
01:13:22,669 --> 01:13:20,159
they're not being addressed and they're

1750
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:22,679
certainly not being addressed by carbon

1751
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:26,159
taxes that's for sure mmm-hmm yes yes

1752
01:13:30,530 --> 01:13:28,530
well all good stuff I look forward to

1753
01:13:32,180 --> 01:13:30,540
the next book let me know when it comes

1754
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:32,190
out we'll definitely have to speak again

1755
01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:35,130
in the future and my mind is thoroughly

1756
01:13:39,620 --> 01:13:37,590
blown lots of really interesting info

1757
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:39,630
and research talked about today I very

1758
01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:41,730
much appreciate the work you've done I

1759
01:13:45,470 --> 01:13:42,780
think we should be questioning

1760
01:13:47,390 --> 01:13:45,480
everything we think we know and today we

1761
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:47,400
definitely did that so thanks again and

1762
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:50,010
take care thank you thank you Greg and

1763
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,719
all the best well oh my my our side

1764
01:14:00,560 --> 01:13:56,880
shadows we are poking the bear today

1765
01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:00,570
bold show very bold show but we like it

1766
01:14:08,290 --> 01:14:03,830
bold right big thanks to Don and David

1767
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:08,300
for they're very interesting work having

1768
01:14:12,940 --> 01:14:10,370
read the book it is really impressive I

1769
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:12,950
do appreciate that boldness their whole

1770
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:16,250
prove me wrong challenge but the truth

1771
01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:18,530
is that two hours is just not enough

1772
01:14:24,190 --> 01:14:20,900
time to make this case it's so

1773
01:14:26,590 --> 01:14:24,200
foundational to our thinking it really

1774
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:26,600
covers the scope of the entire medical

1775
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:29,570
field and that's probably too big for

1776
01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:32,570
any single conversation I don't know

1777
01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:34,790
exactly where I stand on one hand you

1778
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:36,830
must be skeptical of the medical system

1779
01:14:41,950 --> 01:14:38,690
because of everything it's done to

1780
01:14:45,010 --> 01:14:41,960
discredit natural cures and nutrition

1781
01:14:47,050 --> 01:14:45,020
based health nutrition is a much bigger

1782
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:47,060
deal than the way it's presented at

1783
01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:48,290
least in this country

1784
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:50,780
and petrochemicals are just a side

1785
01:14:55,810 --> 01:14:53,150
hustle of the oil everything Rockefeller

1786
01:14:58,720 --> 01:14:55,820
elite it's definitely not giving you the

1787
01:15:01,930 --> 01:14:58,730
best unbiased care and that's a huge

1788
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:01,940
problem we know they're lying to us just

1789
01:15:07,180 --> 01:15:05,330
don't know to what degree I also agree

1790
01:15:10,780 --> 01:15:07,190
that the field itself isn't that

1791
01:15:12,370 --> 01:15:10,790
advanced it wasn't long ago their best

1792
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:12,380
efforts would be considered barbaric

1793
01:15:17,500 --> 01:15:14,570
even to the most conventional of

1794
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:17,510
thinkers the history of medicine is full

1795
01:15:24,030 --> 01:15:21,050
of dark quackery lobotomies bloodletting

1796
01:15:26,770 --> 01:15:24,040
rudimentary surgeries with no anesthesia

1797
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:26,780
even something like circumcision is

1798
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:29,330
based on this fallacy that children

1799
01:15:35,410 --> 01:15:32,210
don't feel pain like there are some

1800
01:15:36,570 --> 01:15:35,420
stupid ideas that are considered normal

1801
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:36,580
in academia

1802
01:15:41,530 --> 01:15:38,570
things that are pretty counterintuitive

1803
01:15:43,750 --> 01:15:41,540
and we know the history of several

1804
01:15:46,990 --> 01:15:43,760
vaccines including the original polio

1805
01:15:49,030 --> 01:15:47,000
vaccine is pretty dark as well and polio

1806
01:15:51,550 --> 01:15:49,040
is another one of those diseases that

1807
01:15:53,770 --> 01:15:51,560
people think was eradicated by other

1808
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:53,780
means more so than the vaccine that gets

1809
01:15:58,480 --> 01:15:56,930
all the credit we know about sv40

1810
01:16:01,390 --> 01:15:58,490
and that's another thing what do they

1811
01:16:04,450 --> 01:16:01,400
think of sv40 did the simian virus in

1812
01:16:07,150 --> 01:16:04,460
the polio vaccine caused cancer at

1813
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,160
Haslem think so and I've been a big fan

1814
01:16:13,690 --> 01:16:09,920
of his book dr. Mary's monkey and that

1815
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:13,700
whole research thread and it's also true

1816
01:16:17,620 --> 01:16:15,710
that like they say there's plenty of

1817
01:16:21,310 --> 01:16:17,630
good useful

1818
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:21,320
necessary bacteria but is all bacterial

1819
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:24,130
positive and helpful I'm not so sure

1820
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:27,110
what is salmonella isn't that bacteria

1821
01:16:33,220 --> 01:16:30,890
is there really no disease or virus that

1822
01:16:36,150 --> 01:16:33,230
can make us sick is contagious and it's

1823
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:36,160
not a thing I don't think I'm there yet

1824
01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:38,810
but it's useful to talk about this sort

1825
01:16:44,050 --> 01:16:41,270
of stuff in the wake of a major virus

1826
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:44,060
scare because I fully agree that you

1827
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:47,330
should be less scared not more and the

1828
01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:49,130
guests are right that there are major

1829
01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:52,310
SIOP elements major media hype elements

1830
01:16:57,070 --> 01:16:54,950
and a ton of disinformation but on the

1831
01:16:59,800 --> 01:16:57,080
other hand it does seem like people are

1832
01:17:02,260 --> 01:16:59,810
getting sick are these all supposed to

1833
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:02,270
be actors granted I do only see this

1834
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:05,120
through screens but if I had to guess

1835
01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:08,960
this coronavirus thing is the release of

1836
01:17:14,740 --> 01:17:11,360
a bio weapon either on accident or on

1837
01:17:16,690 --> 01:17:14,750
purpose I'm not sure to which degree our

1838
01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:16,700
guests would consider something like a

1839
01:17:21,820 --> 01:17:19,790
bio weapon possible that might be how

1840
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:21,830
they define vaccines but even if all

1841
01:17:27,870 --> 01:17:25,610
bacteria is naturally beneficial can it

1842
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:27,880
be altered in a lab

1843
01:17:34,170 --> 01:17:30,850
like I said still so many questions I

1844
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:34,180
had one friend of mine mention that in

1845
01:17:38,460 --> 01:17:36,730
Chinese government labs these scientists

1846
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:38,470
commonly sell their animals after

1847
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:41,170
testing could they have injected an

1848
01:17:46,190 --> 01:17:43,030
animal with something and then it was

1849
01:17:50,190 --> 01:17:46,200
sold at that market and then consumed

1850
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:50,200
seems possible it's good to be really

1851
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:52,570
cautious when you're talking about such

1852
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:55,330
a serious subject I would never want to

1853
01:17:59,940 --> 01:17:57,040
lead people astray and I'm clearly not

1854
01:18:02,840 --> 01:17:59,950
even smart enough to know how much

1855
01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:02,850
validity to put in this kind of stuff so

1856
01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:05,950
you need to think for yourself I'm just

1857
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:07,900
presenting you with an alternative that

1858
01:18:11,790 --> 01:18:09,250
you probably wouldn't have heard

1859
01:18:13,530 --> 01:18:11,800
anywhere else and I want to make sure

1860
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:13,540
that we're not giving people bad

1861
01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:15,760
information that they just run with and

1862
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:17,320
I think our guests would agree with that

1863
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:20,110
too they did all this research and

1864
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:22,750
because of that research they are

1865
01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:25,360
certain about this conclusion and they

1866
01:18:28,350 --> 01:18:27,670
also encourage all of you to do your own

1867
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:28,360
research

1868
01:18:34,020 --> 01:18:30,910
like any good guest should who's

1869
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:34,030
confident in their position so I don't

1870
01:18:39,420 --> 01:18:37,180
know if they are exactly over the target

1871
01:18:41,780 --> 01:18:39,430
with their conclusions but they have a

1872
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:41,790
lot of great data

1873
01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:44,400
and I think they're much closer than

1874
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:46,440
anyone who's telling you to stock up on

1875
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:50,730
canned goods and water and it is awfully

1876
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:53,460
curious how many conditions like say

1877
01:18:58,730 --> 01:18:56,610
autoimmune conditions for example when

1878
01:19:01,580 --> 01:18:58,740
we do shows on certain nutrient

1879
01:19:04,670 --> 01:19:01,590
solutions or iodine or red light therapy

1880
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:04,680
the laundry list of conditions that

1881
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:07,980
these things help is so long that you

1882
01:19:12,340 --> 01:19:09,840
have to wonder if maybe the way we

1883
01:19:15,530 --> 01:19:12,350
define all these conditions is wrong

1884
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:15,540
it's not ten different autoimmune

1885
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:18,360
conditions it's ten different ways your

1886
01:19:24,830 --> 01:19:21,690
body can react to a lack of X Y or Z you

1887
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:24,840
see the distinction there

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it's also curious how when you look at

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these major human die offs in history

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there is a reasonable alternative

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explanation or a lack of surviving

1892
01:19:40,729 --> 01:19:38,369
evidence for the official story in

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several of these cases we only got to

1894
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talk about a few but their book is full

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of them and that is I think one of the

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best things about their book so I'm

1897
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intrigued and I would have this

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conversation again

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I mean Patrick Jordan is somebody we've

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talked to twice in the past who would

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probably be pretty aligned with Don and

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David his whole thing is the serum

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sickness postulate

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that disease in the modern world starts

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01:20:12,370 --> 01:20:08,300
with the vaccines that it's all vaccine

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damage from psoriasis to fibromyalgia to

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cancer to autism don't inject kids with

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chemical cocktails and this won't happen

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I think there's a case to be made that

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that's why people like Bill Gates and

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the CDC are so obsessed with getting

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their vaccines down into the depths of

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Africa we have to obscure the data and

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make sure we infiltrate any natural

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control groups that people can look at

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there's something real sketchy going on

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there but like most things my simple

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stoner mind thinks that the truth is

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usually somewhere in the middle but the

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notion that illness comes from the four

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factors of bad nutrition toxic exposure

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EMF radiation and stress I think that's

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a great way to live even if those are

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the causes for 90% of it and not a full

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100% it's closer to the truth and a

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system that tries to say it's all random

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while shoving junk food GMOs

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geoengineering corporate chemicals

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rampant pollution several dozen vaccines

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and 5g down our throats and saying well

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we don't know why we have the rising

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rates of everything and why everyone's

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sick and we haven't cured anything in

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forever but don't look at any of these

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01:21:33,489 --> 01:21:30,619
things that we are responsible for and

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put the blame there and we know how

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powerful the mind is there's also

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01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:39,050
something to that point about a reverse

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placebo effect if a sugar pill is enough

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01:21:48,819 --> 01:21:44,840
to make some people believe that they're

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01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:48,829
healed so is the right philosophy so

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consider all this when you're inundated

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01:21:57,219 --> 01:21:54,650
with coronavirus paranoia and do your

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01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:57,229
own research but if you liked hearing

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01:22:02,350 --> 01:21:59,840
Don and David do let them know do let me

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01:22:04,779 --> 01:22:02,360
know do we want to hear more should we

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01:22:07,420 --> 01:22:04,789
have them back to unpack this again I

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would like to know

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I expect this to be fairly divisive

1950
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because it is so extreme but of course

1951
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like every episode we have a second hour

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for our precious precious Plus members

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sign up at the higher side shots calm

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double your THC pleasure double your THC

1955
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fun in today's episode we throw several

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more interesting logs on the fire we get

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into the motivations the reasons for the

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deception the economics of it all and

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the control mechanisms and of course

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agenda 2030 we talk about travel

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vaccines and malaria and they made an

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01:22:47,890 --> 01:22:45,980
excellent point about having billions of

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01:22:50,290 --> 01:22:47,900
dollars in all this energy poured into

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01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:50,300
fighting malaria and tropical diseases

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through vaccines but that same amount of

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01:22:58,060 --> 01:22:55,490
money is not spent on just getting them

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clean water and clean stable food

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01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:00,380
sources I think that's something we all

1969
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:02,120
agree would be a better use of that

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01:23:06,670 --> 01:23:05,090
money instead of just letting them be

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01:23:10,030 --> 01:23:06,680
the guinea pigs for these chemical

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01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:10,040
cocktails that only benefit the private

1973
01:23:15,700 --> 01:23:12,710
piggy banks a big pharma but they also

1974
01:23:18,130 --> 01:23:15,710
broke down the immune system fallacy SR

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eyes psychiatric drugs and the brain

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01:23:23,740 --> 01:23:20,720
chemistry imbalance deception there's no

1977
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:23,750
way to test brain chemistry yet so many

1978
01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:25,760
people are taking very serious drugs

1979
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under the pretenses that theirs is off

1980
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we also talked about over-the-counter

1981
01:23:37,060 --> 01:23:34,010
drugs and how risky they really are so

1982
01:23:38,290 --> 01:23:37,070
all good useful stuff we learn more

1983
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every day and I think it's worth your

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01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:40,670
time to get that second hour Oh what do

1985
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:43,430
I know that said take care of you and

1986
01:23:48,820 --> 01:23:46,490
yours pick up a copy of dawn and David's

1987
01:23:51,730 --> 01:23:48,830
great book what really makes you ill if

1988
01:23:53,620 --> 01:23:51,740
you want to go whole hog and I'll see

1989
01:23:56,410 --> 01:23:53,630
you next time I've done my part

1990
01:23:58,630 --> 01:23:56,420
your move disease deceivers friends of

1991
01:24:02,580 --> 01:23:58,640
Big Pharma and dark sorcerers of the

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01:24:06,130 --> 01:24:02,590
modern medical system your [\h__\h] move

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01:24:07,790 --> 01:24:06,140
you know the plan has always been to a

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01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:07,800
cure

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01:24:12,410 --> 01:24:10,780
m'kay oh I'm just trying to dream you

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insane

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they'll explode your heart if you think

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that's what it claims you think I'm

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answering the phone when I aim you gotta

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keep it strong

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01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:27,520
cuz I don't want anyone thinking yo at

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01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:30,580
home well you're not you should tape the

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01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:34,000
mail slot and baby if I seem withdrawn

2004
01:24:40,410 --> 01:24:36,910
let me sing it's cuz I just don't wanna

2005
01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:40,420
go and get whacked maybe you should know

2006
01:24:48,510 --> 01:24:44,350
that the trauma of sex you like it does

2007
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:48,520
everyone it's just the game plan it's

2008
01:24:55,260 --> 01:24:52,450
where the wells become they want a pet

2009
01:24:57,780 --> 01:24:55,270
Amanda swap don't you see what's going

2010
01:25:01,440 --> 01:24:57,790
on well now you

2011
01:25:05,610 --> 01:25:01,450
you're better keepin on your own cuz you

2012
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:05,620
can sing the Masters lacking much oh

2013
01:25:15,450 --> 01:25:10,960
baby you can only trust yourself and if

2014
01:25:20,109 --> 01:25:15,460
you think the system's out of touch it

2015
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:20,119
is and you can only trust yourself

2016
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:23,360
I hope you know real lean aren't your

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01:25:31,659 --> 01:25:27,199
friends the suck out everything from you

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01:25:35,529 --> 01:25:31,669
in the end and if for some reason you

2019
01:25:40,119 --> 01:25:35,539
think I might be wrong I wonder where

2020
01:25:42,549 --> 01:25:40,129
you got that opinion from you gotta keep

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01:25:44,979 --> 01:25:42,559
the Turner's strong cuz you don't want

2022
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:44,989
anyone thinking you're at home well

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01:25:51,819 --> 01:25:48,110
you're not you should tape the mail slot

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01:25:54,850 --> 01:25:51,829
and baby if I seem withdrawn let me say

2025
01:25:58,629 --> 01:25:54,860
it's cuz I just don't wanna go and get

2026
01:26:01,119 --> 01:25:58,639
whacked maybe you should know that the

2027
01:26:05,319 --> 01:26:01,129
trauma of sex do you like it does

2028
01:26:09,219 --> 01:26:05,329
everyone it's just the game when it's

2029
01:26:11,949 --> 01:26:09,229
what the world's become they want a pat

2030
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:11,959
down in the swamp don't you see what's

2031
01:26:17,959 --> 01:26:14,480
going on well now

2032
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:17,969
you're better came in on your own cuz

2033
01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:21,510
you can see the man there's like too

2034
01:26:30,859 --> 01:26:25,800
much oh baby you can only trust yourself

2035
01:26:34,509 --> 01:26:30,869
and if you think the systems out of

2036
01:26:37,210 --> 01:26:34,519
touch it is and you can only trust

2037
01:26:55,559 --> 01:26:37,220
yourself

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[Music]

2039
01:27:03,819 --> 01:26:59,329
you might think that these problems are

2040
01:27:08,049 --> 01:27:03,829
small maybe they aren't registering at

2041
01:27:12,519 --> 01:27:08,059
all now they know you're naive and

2042
01:27:17,519 --> 01:27:12,529
vulnerable you won't believe all of the

2043
01:27:21,549 --> 01:27:17,529
stunts that kelpo cuz you can see the

2044
01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:21,559
Masters lied too much oh baby you can

2045
01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:27,129
only trust yourself and if you think the

2046
01:27:35,679 --> 01:27:31,129
system's out of touch it is and you can

2047
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:35,689
only trust yourself because you can see

2048
01:27:43,570 --> 01:27:39,170
the Masters lat

2049
01:27:47,919 --> 01:27:43,580
Oh baby you can only trust yourself and

2050
01:27:51,330 --> 01:27:47,929
if you think it is the system's out of

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01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:51,340
touch it is and you can only trust